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No Scientific Forecasts to Support Global Warming

YESTERDAY, a former chief at NASA, Dr John S. Theon, slammed the computer models used to determine future climate claiming they are not scientific in part because the modellers have “resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists”. [1]

Today, a founder of the International Journal of Forecasting, Journal of Forecasting, International Institute of Forecasters, and International Symposium on Forecasting, and the author of Long-range Forecasting (1978, 1985), the Principles of Forecasting Handbook, and over 70 papers on forecasting, Dr J. Scott Armstrong, tabled a statement declaring that the forecasting process used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) lacks a scientific basis. [2]

What these two authorities, Drs Theon and Armstrong, are independently and explicitly stating is that the computer models underpinning the work of many scientific institutions concerned with global warming, including Australia’s CSIRO, are fundamentally flawed. 

In today’s statement, made with economist Kesten Green, Dr Armstrong provides the following eight reasons as to why the current IPCC computer models lack a scientific basis:

1. No scientific forecasts of the changes in the Earth’s climate.

Currently, the only forecasts are those based on the opinions of some scientists. Computer modeling was used to create scenarios (i.e., stories) to represent the scientists’ opinions about what might happen. The models were not intended as forecasting models (Trenberth 2007) and they have not been validated for that purpose. Since the publication of our paper, no one has provided evidence to refute our claim that there are no scientific forecasts to support global warming.

We conducted an audit of the procedures described in the IPCC report and found that they clearly violated 72 scientific principles of forecasting (Green and Armstrong 2008). (No justification was provided for any of these violations.) For important forecasts, we can see no reason why any principle should be violated. We draw analogies to flying an aircraft or building a bridge or performing heart surgery—given the potential cost of errors, it is not permissible to violate principles.

2. Improper peer review process.

To our knowledge, papers claiming to forecast global warming have not been subject to peer review by experts in scientific forecasting.

3. Complexity and uncertainty of climate render expert opinions invalid for forecasting.

Expert opinions are an inappropriate forecasting method in situations that involve high complexity and high uncertainty. This conclusion is based on over eight decades of research. Armstrong (1978) provided a review of the evidence and this was supported by Tetlock’s (2005) study that involved 82,361 forecasts by 284 experts over two decades.

Long-term climate changes are highly complex due to the many factors that affect climate and to their interactions. Uncertainty about long-term climate changes is high due to a lack of good knowledge about such things as:
a) causes of climate change,
b) direction, lag time, and effect size of causal factors related to climate change,
c) effects of changing temperatures, and
d) costs and benefits of alternative actions to deal with climate changes (e.g., CO2 markets).

Given these conditions, expert opinions are not appropriate for long-term climate predictions.

4. Forecasts are needed for the effects of climate change.

Even if it were possible to forecast climate changes, it would still be necessary to forecast the effects of climate changes. In other words, in what ways might the effects be beneficial or harmful? Here again, we have been unable to find any scientific forecasts—as opposed to speculation—despite our appeals for such studies.

We addressed this issue with respect to studies involving the possible classification of polar bears as threatened or endangered (Armstrong, Green, and Soon 2008). In our audits of two key papers to support the polar bear listing, 41 principles were clearly violated by the authors of one paper and 61 by the authors of the other. It is not proper from a scientific or from a practical viewpoint to violate any principles. Again, there was no sign that the forecasters realized that they were making mistakes.

5. Forecasts are needed of the costs and benefits of alternative actions that might be taken to combat climate change.

Assuming that climate change could be accurately forecast, it would be necessary to forecast the costs and benefits of actions taken to reduce harmful effects, and to compare the net benefit with other feasible policies including taking no action. Here again we have been unable to find any scientific forecasts despite our appeals for such studies.

6.  To justify using a climate forecasting model, one would need to test it against a relevant naïve model.

We used the Forecasting Method Selection Tree to help determine which method is most appropriate for forecasting long-term climate change. A copy of the Tree is attached as Appendix 1. It is drawn from comparative empirical studies from all areas of forecasting. It suggests that extrapolation is appropriate, and we chose a naïve (no change) model as an appropriate benchmark. A forecasting model should not be used unless it can be shown to provide forecasts that are more accurate than those from this naïve model, as it would otherwise increase error. In Green, Armstrong and Soon (2008), we show that the mean absolute error of 108 naïve forecasts for 50 years in the future was 0.24°C.

7. The climate system is stable. 

To assess stability, we examined the errors from naïve forecasts for up to 100 years into the future. Using the U.K. Met Office Hadley Centre’s data, we started with 1850 and used that year’s average temperature as our forecast for the next 100 years. We then calculated the errors for each forecast horizon from 1 to 100. We repeated the process using the average temperature in 1851 as our naïve forecast for the next 100 years, and so on. This “successive updating” continued until year 2006, when we forecasted a single year ahead. This provided 157 one-year-ahead forecasts, 156 two-year-ahead and so on to 58 100-year-ahead forecasts. 

We then examined how many forecasts were further than 0.5°C from the observed value. Fewer than 13% of forecasts of up to 65-years-ahead had absolute errors larger than 0.5°C. For longer horizons, fewer than 33% had absolute errors larger than 0.5°C. Given the remarkable stability of global mean temperature, it is unlikely that there would be any practical benefits from a forecasting method that provided more accurate forecasts.
 
8.  Be conservative and avoid the precautionary principle.

One of the primary scientific principles in forecasting is to be conservative in the darkness of uncertainty. This principle also argues for the use of the naive no-change extrapolation. Some have argued for the precautionary principle as a way to be conservative. It is a political, not a scientific principle. As we explain in our essay in Appendix 2, it is actually an anti-scientific principle in that it attempts to make decisions without using rational analyses. Instead, cost/benefit analyses are appropriate given the available evidence which suggests that temperature is just as likely to go up as down. However, these analyses should be supported by scientific forecasts.

The reach of these models is extraordinary, for example, the CSIRO models are currently being used in Australia to determine water allocations for farmers and to justify the need for an Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) – the most far-reaching of possible economic interventions.   Yet, according to Dr Armstrong, these same models violate 72 scientific principles.

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1. Marc Morano, James Hansen’s Former NASA Supervisor Declares Himself a Skeptic, January 27,2009. http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=1a5e6e32-802a-23ad-40ed-ecd53cd3d320

2. “Analysis of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking for Greenhouse Gases”, Drs. J. Scott Armstrong and Kesten C. Green a statement prepared for US Senator Inhofe for an analysis of the US EPA’s proposed policies for greenhouse gases.  http://theclimatebet.com

The picture of the clouds and sea framing a small island, was taken off the coast of Sulawesi, Indonesia, by Eric Ness in 2007.

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116 Responses to “No Scientific Forecasts to Support Global Warming”

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  1. Comment from: janama


    I’m sorry NT but you are expecting us to believe that top level scientific research can go from this

    http://users.tpg.com.au/johnsay1/Stuff/stations_5.jpg

    to this

    http://users.tpg.com.au/johnsay1/Stuff/new_warm.jpg

    in 8 months with basically the same people doing the research.

    I’m not surprised at the increase in graphic quality, but the dramatic change in temperature over a vast continent I find questionable.

    If their previous readings were so far out why should I trust the recent ones?

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  5. Comment from: Graeme Bird


    Where is my money Luke? You too sod. NT. SJT. Slim. That little tramp and transmuted gang-moll; True-Skeptic. You know the rules. Pay up. There is a big debt of unrighteousness you clowns have to start amortizing.

  6. Comment from: Truesceptic


    G’day Graeme,

    It seems you’re still confused. Don’t worry, though, I’ll be doing my best to help get you voted Wingnut Of The Year next time. It’s a travesty you didn’t get it this time: you’re in a whole other league!

    Please don’t change any past posts at your site. We’re only a month into 2009 and you’ve already done enough to guarantee a place in the final run-off. ;)

  7. Comment from: Graeme Bird


    Isn’t it funny. A gang-moll and there you are smitten.

    “Y’know, I miss The Bird…….” I would have thought that was rather old news.

    ” ………In fact I pop over to his site every now and then to enjoy his rare but honest ……..”

    Right. Thats enough of that treacly shit. Clearly you are LOST. Lost for all time.

    But back to the subject at hand. You’ve never come up with any evidence for any of your delusional beliefs. Not just on this subject but for any of your delusional beliefs at all. Get me the compensation money you slut. Same goes for the rest of you. Because you aint coming up with any evidence for your lies. You’ve all gone into leftist projection mode. But if you had evidence you would post it.

    The other thing is that you must not type or speak my name without the words “supremely” and “vindicated” in the same sentence.

  8. Comment from: TrueSceptic


    Graeme,

    For the record, I think it was unfair to ban you from the JREF forums. After all, you believe what you say, whereas we have obvious persistent liars who somehow are allowed to stay. If you could only moderate your language you would still be there.

    I respect honesty, no matter how misguided. I despise liars. The question is, which are which here?

  9. Comment from: TrueSceptic


    Graeme,

    PS, Keep it up. Good material for the next anthology. :)

  10. Comment from: Graeme Bird


    Well there you are. Lost. I could rape her now and she would still wonder when we were going out for dinner.

  11. Comment from: TrueSceptic


    Just out of interest: how would you respond if I were to say something similar about Jennifer M? She’s not a bad looking Sheila, is she? ;)

  12. Comment from: Graeme Bird


    I can see now that you are never going to leave me alone. What a feeble attempt to make conversation.

  13. Comment from: TrueSceptic


    HaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHahaHaHaHaHaha

  14. Comment from: Graeme Bird


    There she goes flying off on her broomstick cackling all the way. Be careful not to swallow that thing sister, you’ll drop clean out of the air.

  15. Comment from: Jim Hollingsworth


    One thing that has always bothered me is the statement that unless you are a climate scientist with peer-reviewed papers in a scientific publication you are just not credible. Well, the fact remains that in a Republic the people actually do have something to say about public policy. And, since we are all going to be affected by climate policy for a long time to come, and since public policies on scientific themes have a way of being passed hastily and then not repealed even when the science is proven wrong it behooves all of us citizens to become informed and to take a stand. The global warmers are trying very hard to limit the discussiion to those who accept their view. This is a serious mistake. I hope to write something simple like global warming for dummies for those who really don’t want to do a lot of reading. If you have ideas I would love to hear them. jimhollingsworth@verizon.net

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