Dear Jennifer,
I have enjoyed reading Mark’s articles at On Line Opinion entitled ‘Fired-Up Forests Have More Impact than Loggers’ and agree with much of what he says. But he must check his facts regarding thinning in Perth water supply catchments.
The Wungong catchment is only 3.8% of the area of Perth catchments. So it is incorrect to say, “Western Australia has been quick to take advantage… ”
This thinning is only a tiny trial, just a PR effort so the West Austraslian government water organisations can trumpet that they are doing something and most of what they say has to have spin “fine tooth combed” out before truth emerges.
The reality of what is happening in Perth water supply catchments can be seen in my graphic at http://au.geocities.com/perth_water/ scroll down to, “Graphic of Catchment Efficiency 1980-2005 showing disastrous falloff 1996-2005 after ceasing catchment management.” Click on thumbnail for a larger graphic.
It is perfectly clear from my graphic that the West Australian government is de facto decommissioning Perth catchments. If catchments had been managed post 1996 as they were before that date so as to keep yields steady, Perth would have enjoyed about 90 GL extra water per year on average. Equal to production from two Kwinana sized seawater desalination plants, which require an investment of about $500 million each now. That puts on scale the cost of catchment neglect.
This colossal bungling extends into other areas of water resources.
North of Perth a pine plantation at Gnangara suppresses the potential of the groundwater there by about 100 GL per year. With incremental water valued by investment required in seawater desalination, Govt claims that the pines are needed to support a proposed plywood industry is simply ludicrous. Timber can easily be sourced on the open market if anyone is of a mind to make plywood and the pines must have a negative net present value now in view of their manifest billion dollar damage to groundwater potential.
The Avon, Murray and Collie Rivers pass about twice Perth’s total water consumption each year but in a weakly saline state. Surely desalination of a small part of these flows would be cheaper and lower impact than seawater desalination and could take place away from the fragile and crowded coast. In fact a private company, Agritech has been valiantly trying to interest the government in a proposal to desalinate water currently wasted to sea each year from the Wellington dam near Collie. This proposal would be at no capital cost to government and would produce water at half government desalination costs and would I am told use gravity in the process thus cutting back greatly on electricity.
Perth is not running out of water, the water is running out of Perth.
The Ancient Romans were vastly better water managers than the West Australian government.
Regards, Warwick Hughes
Mark Poynter says
Warwick
I wasn’t aware that that the Wungong catchment was quite that small, but my facts about the thinning are from a Water Corporation publication entitled ‘Wungong Catchment Environment and Water Management Project.’ It describes a 12 year, $20M program of thinning that is expected to ‘restore 4 – 6 billion litres of run-off water a year’ I understand that the actual thinning started earlier this year.
I suppose its somewhat subjective as to how this project is described – you consider it ‘a tiny trial’ – but(admittedly from a distance) it appears to be somewhat more substantial than that and certainly the Water Corporation suggests that it ‘could lay the foundation for better management of water catchments supplying Perth.’The unfortunate aspect of it may be that they will wait 12 years before considering whether to do it more widely.
In any event what is happening in WA is a step ahead of where we are at in Melbourne where tiny sub-catchment trials showing the positive effect of thinning on water yield back in the early 1980s and monitored in the early 1990s have thus far been ignored with no attempt made to implement it even on the scale of the Wungong Project.
Mark Poynter
Gavin says
Ahhh, just waiting for this one; the idea of logging our water catchments has opened another Pandora ’s Box. Warwick is quick to knock Perth’s desal and plywood proposals however there is no mention of a likely climate change affecting both water and timber production. Also the issue of future population growth under this new circumstance cannot be ignored.
Pinxi says
To apply the same reasoning we’ve heard from some people here of late, if there’s a supply issue with a shared resource then clearly there must be a population problem. Undersupply of water? Just cull the population.
Sid Reynolds says
‘Just cull the population’, maybe Pinxi is thinking of a modified form of Eugenics. Hitler modified that to cull the Jews. Is it a secret “green” wish to cull all non-believers? Maybe there is also a whiff of the Calvinist doctrine of ‘Justification and Election’ here!
Sid Reynolds says
Correction: Before the theologians get onto me! The Calvinist Doctrine of ‘Predestination and Election’, and the Lutheran Doctrine of ‘Justification by Faith Alone’, both of which seem to have been adopted by the new Green Religion.
whyisitso says
I think Pinxi is attempting irony here Sid.
Robert says
Warwick’s website only looks at data from one rainfall station. However, the BOM’s time series of SW WA rainfall suggests a significant decline in recent years http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/silo/reg/cli_chg/timeseries.cgi . Moreover, there is no analysis of rainfall rates, a decline in which will result in less run off, even when amounts are constant. As to whether thinning would increase run off, I am skeptical. Surely runoff is a function of many variables, including soil type, type of forest floor vegetation, rain intensity and slope to name a few. I suspect lack of heavy rain is the most likely cause of Perth’s problem (like it has been for the last 6 years in Sydney’s catchment), but a more comprehensive analysis needs to be done. In the meantime, if I lived in Perth I would be securing my own water supply using tanks, or move elsewhere – soils are too sandy anyway.
Warwick Hughes says
Sorry Robert but if you read what was on my “Graphic of Catchment Efficiency 1980-2005 showing disastrous falloff 1996-2005 after ceasing catchment management.” Click on thumbnail for a larger graphic. At;
http://au.geocities.com/perth_water/
you see that the rainfall data is from four stations spread to represent Perth catchments.
Sid Reynolds says
Thanks ‘whyisitso’….Yes, I realise Pinxi was being ironic……But what a lead in she/he gave me!!
Louis Hissink says
Climate changes are in terms of 30 year aggregates.
Any descriptions of shorter periods are, and have to be, called weather.
Chicken entrails anyone?
Luke says
30 aggreggates. No they’re not Louis. You’ve just got 30 years on the brain after your misadventure with running means and anomalies.
The rainfall decline issue in SW WA has been well documented and investigated by the Indian Ocean Climate Initiative (IOCI.
http://www.ioci.org.au/publications/pdf/IOCI_TechnicalReport02.pdf
Complex interactions between greenhouse forcings, the southern annular mode, and maulti-decadal natural variability have been investigated.
http://www.csiro.au/csiro/content/standard/ps18l.html
And as the Bureau said on 1-Dec-2006
Perth’s rainfall over the past 11 months has been at a record low.
The Bureau of Meteorology’s Grahame Reader says 462 millimetres of rain fell in the city between January and November, which is almost 46 per cent below the average of 846 millimetres.
“It’s a very sad state of affairs,” he said.
The Conservation Council of Western Australia’s Chris Tallentire says there is no doubt climate change has become a reality and Perth people should do everything they can use water wisely.
“Householders are one part of the tackling of the need for greater efficiency, so to is industry and agriculture,” he said.
The council says it looks forward to the State Government’s Climate Change Action Plan, which will be released early next year.
Might be also a lack of rainfall?
roger underwood says
To return to the original issue.
Warrick Hughes is less enthusiastic than I am about the value of thinning (plus regular green burning) of forests on Perth’s water supply catchments to generate “new” water. We are not talking about clear felling of virgin old growth forests here, but thinning of dense regrowth arising from timber cutting and regeneraton up to 100 yrs ago. The science is well understood. As Mark Poynter correctly points out, properly managed thinning and frequent (about 5 yrs interval) mild burning will result in a significant additional flow into the reservoirs. There will be three other excellent outcomes: (i) additional streamflow and the wetting up of riparian areas and wetlands, enhancing wildlife; (ii) improved health and vigour of retained trees at a time of declining rainfall; and (iii) lower risk of large high intensity bushfires.
However, Warrick is quite correct in saying that there has been a sorry decline in catchment management in WA’s forests. Up until a few years ago, these forests were designated as multiple use State forests with the management priority being water production (in the non-salinity risk zones) and catchment protection (in areas potentially at risk from salinity). The government has recently converted the bulk of these forests to national parks where the management priority is biodiversity conservation. In these areas any thinning, which of course involves felling trees, will not be allowed, and green burning is frowned upon. The net result is the management of water catchments as areas which will retain water, especially in a time of low rainfall. Already the outcomes are very evident: reservoirs whcih are almost empty, and an overstocked unthrifty forest in which (during the last three years) there have been three massive high intensity fires. This represents mismanagement of a community asset of the highest order…..and all in the name of conservation!