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Methane Leak
Scientists have discovered the Arctic ocean seabed is leaking huge amounts of methane into the atmosphere.  The research published in the journal Science shows the permafrost under the East Siberian Arctic shelf, which was thought to be a barrier sealing methane, is perforated.  Read more here. (0)

NYT: Pachauri Faces Credibility Siege
The New York Times is reporting that: Dr. Pachauri and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are now under intense scrutiny, facing accusations of scientific sloppiness and potential financial conflicts of interest from climate skeptics, right-leaning politicians and even some mainstream scientists.  More here. (1)

Phil Jones Guilty, But
The university at the centre of the climate change row over stolen e-mails broke the law by refusing to hand over its raw data for public scrutiny.  B ut…  Read more here. (0)

Banks Leave Carbon Market
Banks and investors are pulling out of the carbon market after the failure to make progress at Copenhagen on reaching new emissions targets after 2012.  Read more here. (0)

UK Met Office Can't Forecast Weather
The UK Met Office is debating what to do with its long-term and seasonal forecasting after criticism for failing to predict extreme weather.   It was predicted that this winter would be warmer than average – yet it has been unusually cold.  Read more here. (2)

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Clean-up Just Stirs Up

The green-forced “clean-up” by General Electric of PCBs in Hudson River sediments has — to no one’s surprise — backfired.  Read more here.

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5 Responses to “Clean-up Just Stirs Up”

  1. Comment from: Larry Fields


    Not all environmental causes are sucker-proof. If one wants to fill up the inner void, by making the world a better place to live, then one should do one’s bloody homework first. And that includes becoming scientifically literate. If one is not willing to take that first step, then one should get a life, and forget about saving the world!

  2. Comment from: Jennifer Marohasy » On ‘Saving the World’


    [...] and forget about saving the world!”   Larry Fields, August 2009 for some context …  http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/08/clean-up-just-stirs-up/ [...]

  3. Comment from: Ed Darrell


    Actually, this was expected and prepared for. As GE itself explains on its website about the dredging:
    http://www.hudsondredging.com/

    Is there no good cause you will not try to mislead people about?

  4. Comment from: Larry Fields


    Ed wrote:
    “Actually, this was expected and prepared for.”

    So what? Neither you nor GE have answered the big question: Why?

    Yes, I know, PCBs are ba-a-ad. And they’ll also be ba-a-ad at the Texas landfill. And they would also be ba-a-ad on the dark side of the Moon. If we could wave a magic wand, and make all of the PCBs in the Hudson R vanish instantly, it would be worthwhile to do so. However in the real world, clean-ups cost real dollars.

    Now I’ll put the monkey on your back. Put dollar values on the following:
    •the damage that the undisturbed PCBs in the Hudson R sediments WERE doing
    •the damage that the temporarily elevated PCB levels in the river ARE doing
    •the damage that the evil PCBs WILL DO in the Texas landfill
    Now get out your pocket calculator. Do those dollar figures justify the dollar cost of the operation?

    Yes, I know that we’re in the middle of the Bush Recession, and that it’s appropriate for the government to use tax dollars to stimulate the economy. But even in such cases, scarce taxpayer dollars are best spent on worthwhile projects–like increasing the insulation in old government buildings for greater energy efficiency.

    OK Ed, you’re the one who’s making the sweeping claim. Prove that the dredging project is NOT a bloody boondoggle.

    Uh-huh, I thought so. Chest-thumping is more fun than getting one’s mind dirty, and doing some hard thinking for a change. Before you crawl back under your rock, be sure to check the PCB levels there.

  5. Comment from: Ed Darrell


    OK Ed, you’re the one who’s making the sweeping claim. Prove that the dredging project is NOT a bloody boondoggle.

    What did the cost-benefit study say?

    You didn’t bother to looki?

    Uh-huh, I thought so. Chest bumping driven by ignorance is much more fun that bothering to check out the facts. Before you crawl back under your rock, remember that if there are PCBs there, you’re doomed. Living under rocks probably isn’t a good idea.

    You’ve never heard of the Hudson River before this incident, I’ll wager.

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