Jennifer Marohasy

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Internet Censorship

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Australia will join China in implementing mandatory censoring of the internet. Read more here.

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  1. Louis Hissink says

    China’s only interest in censoring the internet is political – it remains a Totalaritarian State, so trhe fact we are siding with China is indeed worrying.

    There is another game in play here.

  2. Geoff Brown says

    As Louis says “China’s only interest in censoring the internet is political.”

    From the article
    “The plan was first created as a way to combat child pronography and adult content, but could be extended to include controversial websites on euthanasia or anorexia. ”
    Could also be extended to include views opposing the policies e.g. this blog.

  3. stuart harmon says

    Dear Jennifer

    China are not the only ones censoring on the internet. I made a few posts on Realclimate .Org as follows, I hope the posts are not confusing also I don’t think they are offensive :-

    1. stuart harmon Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    26 October 2008 at 7:46 AM
    [Response: Guys, I’m not claiming expertise on polar bears, which I don’t have. But the comparison with the last interglacial, and the Eemian, is not necessarily at all relevant. In neither of these past times did it get warm as fast as is happening now. Rates matter, usually more than magnitudes. In any event, we may well be heading for warmer-than-Eemian in the long term–eric]
    The above is a false statement see out put from Vostock Ice Cores Robert Carter U tube.
    Do you Censor reasonable opinions?
    2. stuart harmon Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    26 October 2008 at 7:50 AM
    This site keeps mentioning the IPCC as an authority. Which is strange because the IPCC policy has been arrived at a people who work for the IPPC.
    Do you censor contributions?
    3. stuart harmon Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    26 October 2008 at 7:57 AM
    [Response: This is a fair point (sort of; I don’t want to get into another debate about the “hockey stick” here). It is probably strictly true that one cannot (yet) demonstrate that the rate of temperature increase is unprecendented. The rate of CO2 rise is, however, unprecendented at least in the last 100s of thousands of years. That’s the relevant point for thinking about the future. –eric]
    The second part of this statement is false. The rate of change in the 150 years to 1998 is not unusual see Vostock Ice Cores and other data.
    Since 1998 global temperatures have been falling despit Hansen and others telling us that by now global temperatures would be 2degrees above those in 1998
    I am surprised that the Hockey Stick is still mentioned especially as the statistical method in arriving at it’s shape has been discredited.
    Do you censor posts?

  4. stuart harmon says

    Dear Jennifer

    My last post may be confusing because I copied and pasted. Please note of the four posts only one was addressed :-

    stuart harmon Says:
    26 October 2008 at 7:46 AM
    [Response: Guys, I’m not claiming expertise on polar bears, which I don’t have. But the comparison with the last interglacial, and the Eemian, is not necessarily at all relevant. In neither of these past times did it get warm as fast as is happening now. Rates matter, usually more than magnitudes. In any event, we may well be heading for warmer-than-Eemian in the long term–eric]

    The above is a false statement see out put from Vostock Ice Cores Robert Carter U tube.

    [edit]

    [Response: No it is not, and Eric is correct. See Otto-Bliesner et al (2006, Science) and compare with projections for 2100. – gavin]

    Censorship on Global Warming is now in place on the BBC and other media outlets and thank goodness for the web.

    As you will no doubt appreciate most of my comments are based on Robert Carters presentation which I viewed on utube.

    Anyway what do I know about as I only studied for a Civil Engineering degree which covered subjects such as Geology, Fluid Mechanics Thrmodynamics and Physics, but not forgetting Statistics.

    Please keep up the good work without rationalism science will not serve us.