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Gone Fishing

I am going to take some time out from this blog to try and complete a couple of projects that I’ve started, but am having trouble finishing. So there may be no new posts here for a while.

In the meantime you can subscribe for my irregular email updates here:
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And check the ‘Community Home’ page for updates from other readers with their nature photographs and more here: http://jennifermarohasy.com/category/community/

And here’s a picture I took of a fisher, a darter cormorant, in Kakadu National Park a few years ago.

Interestingly according to one account of life in the Lower Murray in South Australia one hundred years ago there was a bounty on cormorants (that are closely related to darters), with 34,000 taken in one year ostensibly because they ate too many fish [1].

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[1] Travels in Australasia, by Wandandian see page 301

26th July 1909 at Caurnamont, near Mannum

‘Birds were very scarce, though we saw one fine old spoonbill wading round the swamp and swinging his head from side to side in the peculiar fashion these birds have while feeding.

On the latter day, while out shooting, I picked up a freshly decapitated turtle of the kind called by the natives “emys,” and on meeting a fisherman enquired of him whether he had caught many, and why it was without a head.

He replied that the turtles were so destructive of fish spawn, that a scalp fee of one penny was paid on the head of each by the Government, and that he caught a good many from time to time.

On further enquiry, I found that in the past year the South Australian Government had paid over £600 in scalping fees to various people for 116,000 turtles and 34,000 cormorants, thus satisfactorily explaining why the cormorants are so shy, and look upon every man with suspicion; for when one contemplates what a hunting they must have in the course of the year to furnish such an enormous “bag,” it would be decidedly strange if they were at all otherwise. In spite of all this I saw hundreds of them on the Murray and lake waters, so that I am sure many must pour in from outside to take the place of those that are shot, and should this be the case it will be many years before their numbers are at all reduced, or the Government get anything like the full value for their money, or even justify its expenditure.’

[Back then Murray cod were plentiful despite the turtles and the cormorant though now there are no Murray cod in that stretch of river below Lock 1.]

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  1. Comment from: Johnathan Wilkes


    Good on you cohenite,
    i was distracted by betting on the dogs, and as usual missing by that much “”

    re. Jonova’s thread the claim was always questionable, but I don’t think the die hards will give in easily

  2. Comment from: cohenite


    What a gracious loser you are Jonathan!

  3. Comment from: Debbie


    Mark A,
    it’s about as stupid as it gets.
    BTW, The basin is NOT ailing.

  4. Comment from: Debbie


    The MDB is brimming and glowing with health.
    The mind boggling amount of time, tax payers’ money and MSM political spin had nothing to do with the spectacular turn around in the MDB.
    It has been a classic example of our natural ephemeral environment doing what it does. . . or as Dorothea Mackellar penned. . . ‘a land of drought and flooding rain.’
    We still have ‘the establishment’ managing for a dry catchment and inhibiting production.
    They’re claiming that everything is ‘too full’ to allocate.

  5. Comment from: Neville


    Roger Pielke states in his WSJ column that the USA is currently suffering from a hurricane drought.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204840504578089413659452702.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    Three hurricanes in one year in the 1950s would have each caused twice the damage of Sandy.

  6. Comment from: kuhnkat


    Thanks for taking the bullet for us Cohinite!!!

  7. Comment from: Neville


    Interesting article from WUWT showing severe hurricanes off USA east coast New York state area during the LIA.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/01/hurricane-sandys-unprecedented-storm-surge/#more-73565

  8. Comment from: gavin


    “AGW is disproven”

    Says who coh??

  9. Comment from: Debbie


    “AGW is disproven”

    Says who coh??

    Are you sure you want to try and play ‘arguing semantics’ with a lawyer Gavin?
    Are you sure you can adequately define ‘disproven’ within the intended context?
    :-)

    Just asking

  10. Comment from: cohenite


    test

  11. Comment from: cohenite


    I’m having trouble replying to gav; I’ll give one example at a time:

    “AGW is disproven”

    Says who coh??

    Take your pick, 3 versions:

    http://joannenova.com.au/2012/10/man-made-global-warming-disproved/

    Sensible comments only gav.

  12. Comment from: cohenite


    2nd choice.

    http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=14179

  13. Comment from: Another Ian


    ? Upcoming winter warnings ?

    The Scotch thistles have only just flowered

    Ditto the Mexican poppies

    And the kangaroos still have winter coats

  14. Comment from: gavin


    Deb; I suspected the word “disproven” was not of coh’s creation and he was merely repeating watts or bolt as some others do.

    Well, the truth’s out and I forgot to tack jo onto my no go list for those others to see. Simply there is too much fuss here over the usual mouth pieces for knockers inc and their handful of unpublished climate science gurus. It’s the same bitter group who refuse to willing acknowledge just about all social enterprise and always given away by their collective use of individually disparaging rhetoric. It’s the same tripe over decades too.

    Now, how do they fix the US power grid after Sandy? Restore everything to as it was before the storm?

    Where do all the sand bags go next time?

  15. Comment from: Robert


    “Now, how do they fix the US power grid after Sandy?”
    They hire engineers, electricians…people like that.

    “Where do all the sand bags go next time?”
    Same place they put them in 1821 and 1893, I suppose.

  16. Comment from: Larry Fields


    It’s shameless self promotion time again. Here’s my latest mathematical article at Hubpages.

    A Surprising Fact about Prime Numbers

    Summary: This article shows that the difference between the squares of any two prime numbers greater than 3 is always divisible by 6.

    LINK
    http://tinyurl.com/b44ch4p

  17. Comment from: Neville


    Geezzzz Gav, what are you yapping on about? Yes they fix the power grid and have the sandbags ready for next time, DUH.

    What is it about facts that makes you cringe? Who knows next time they may face a really strong NATURAL cat 3+ hurricane and much greater storm surges that were experienced centuries ago.

    But in the meantime they should adapt and use the latest technology available to help them when the next big NATURAL storm inevitably strikes again.

    As long as they don’t completely waste scarce borrowed funds on delusional nonsense like a co2 tax and instead use adaptation and new technology they will always have the best outcome.

    Of course our climate commission continues with their porkies and exaggerated rubbish.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/climate_commission_caught_hyping_superstorm_sandy/#commentsmore

    Just proves that they can’t read simple history records, can’t read very simple graphs and don’t even undestand simple kindy maths. What a disgrace.

  18. Comment from: Debbie


    Gavin,
    As always, they will muddle through and clean up the mess.
    Sandy was not a man made abberation. It wasn’t caused by anything other than what normally causes hurricanes, storms, cyclones etc.
    We’re all getting better at cleaning up and protecting ourselves but it is not possible to keep everything and everyone completely safe from storms etc, it never has been.
    I would also respectfully suggest you check the references that were used in the article that Cohenite linked.
    You may discover that your comment about a handful of unpublished climate science gurus may be incorrect.
    What is it specifically that you think people are ‘knocking’ Gavin?

  19. Comment from: Neville


    Ya gotta laugh at our hopeless warmists. Joe Bastardi shows NOAA’s records for some really big and NATURAL hurricanes that occured during the 1950s.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/02/next-time-somebody-tries-to-tell-you-hurricane-sandy-was-an-unprecedented-east-coast-hurricane-show-them-this/#more-73652

    Rather proves that our climate commission should be wound up once Abbot gets elected. Let’s get rid of the lies and half truths that infest our labor govt and their stupid fellow travelers.
    Btw if there was a correlation to co2 emissions it seems that lower co2 levels are an indicator for more severe and numerous hurricanes. Just kidding. Although Pielke Jnr is correct, the USA is indeed suffering a drought of hurricane activity.

  20. Comment from: Neville


    How about this extreme and severe storm in 1933. About 10 inches of rain every day for nearly a week before 80mph winds arrived.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/eastern-shore/bal-1933storm-pg,0,6378003.photogallery

    But co2 levels in 1933 were hardly much different than at the start of the industrial revolution.

  21. Comment from: davefromweewaa


    Hi Debbie,
    I heard Barnaby refer to enough water to feed and clothe 5,000,000 people in the senate the other day.As in that’s how much has been and will be taken out of production in the MDB with the latest announcement.Do you know how that was calculated ?
    Barnaby also refered to poor people going without as a consequence.I think consequences for poor consumers and dubious to non existant environmental benefits is the best line of attack against green grandstanding.What do you think ?
    Dave Shorter

  22. Comment from: Robert


    Centuries ago, New York was a very low lying coastal city subject to occasional hurricanes. Now, New York is a very low lying coastal city subject to occasional hurricanes. The good news is that the worst known hurricane of the northern states wasn’t centred on New York. Well, it was good news in 1635, when it happened.

    Of course, it wasn’t good news for those further to the north, where the Great Colonial Hurricane did its worst. The Salem Puritans probably blamed witches. And what’s changed much?

  23. Comment from: Neville


    Robert if Gav or Luke etc had lived at the time of witch burnings I’m sure they would have enthusiastically joined in.

    I can remember Dad telling me a long time ago that “we’ve always had these bloody urgers.” Dad hated them and I must admit I’ve taken up his baton whenever I hear silly manipulators and nongs sprouting silly nonsense.

  24. Comment from: John Sayers


    Thank you Roger! That idiot Will Steffen was on ABC Radio AM stating that Sandy was a direct of climate change!

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204840504578089413659452702.html?fb_action_ids=10151208515777155&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

  25. Comment from: debbie


    So why aren’t Luke, Bazza and others berating these people for trying to use ‘just weather’ as evidence either for or against CAGW theory?
    Either way….it’s ‘just weather’ or just a ‘wiggle wobble’ isn’t it?
    It was only newsworthy because it landed in a highly urbanised strip of the coast….and of course will be expensive to clean up.
    But that has always been the case….and it has always been a well known risk that the ocean can bring in some wild and destructive weather to the coast.
    Anyone who has ever lived on the coast (or near any large body of water) knows this is an ever present risk.
    Wild weather and large bodies of water have always been a highly disruptive partnership.

  26. Comment from: John Sayers


    Just listened to the Andrew Ollie Lecture given this year by Mark Colvin from PM. He kept referring to him and his audience being from the position of reality and fact as opposed to all the bloggers etc.

    It was a typical ABC love fest. Mark Scott even had the audacity to congratulate Richard Glover for winning his Drive Show ratings without resorting to putting down women!!

    They just don’t get it!!

  27. Comment from: kuhnkat


    Gavin,

    “Now, how do they fix the US power grid after Sandy? Restore everything to as it was before the storm?”

    Other than harden it against EMP’s of the natural and unnatural kind why would we need to fix the US power grid?? It was one small section of the east coast of the US that has the problem!!

    I agree that cities which are below or close to the water level should think a little harder about putting their utilities and other things BELOW that line unless they are waterproofing them!!

  28. Comment from: kuhnkat


    Debbie,

    “It was only newsworthy because it landed in a highly urbanised strip of the coast….and of course will be expensive to clean up.”

    Actually it was only newsworthy due to the amount of damage done due to the lack of reasonable preparation!! The fun part is the finger pointing. The AGW loons blame it on Gorebull Warming even though we have records of WORSE events before a significant rise in man made CO2. The government blames the power companies and anyone else they can for the lack of preparation, and the people blame the gubmint!!!

    Oh wait, we are supposed to be a Republican form of gubmint, NOT a socialism or some type of authoritarian structure!! Unfortunately we have become a socialist nation with virtually everyone ignoring their PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for themselves and their areas and expect the gubmint to save them. The gubmint is a bunch of corrupt morons who claim that even though they REGULATE everything of any significance, except possibly the Internet, they don’t have enough power and demand more if they are to to the job!!!

    Yup, nothing but tossers!!

  29. Comment from: Neville


    Here is Will Steffen’s interview on AM. If Abbot doesn’t quickly close down this climate commission circus as a first priority it will be surprising. These people are clueless and will make up anything on the run.

    http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3624925.htm

  30. Comment from: Neville


    Just had a look at the climate commission’s site and noticed the video on the side that has a message from big HIPPO Al Gore.

    He thanks the people of OZ for leading on CC because we introduced a co2 tax and he says we have “inspired the world.”
    This site is a disgrace because they allow this idiot to claim that our cyclones, bush fires etc are all the result of AGW.
    He states that Flannery is a good friend so you know where he’s coming from I suppose.
    If you have the stomach for delusional BS have a look at his stupid video.

    http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/queensland-climate-impacts-opportunities/

    Pity they didn’t put up these facts front and centre on their homepage. But it would rather wreck their idiotic message.

    http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/ieo/emissions.cfm

  31. Comment from: Debbie


    Yep KK,
    But I would also add that it appears while wanting more LEGISLATIVE power and also wanting to be paid for the privilege of having more power to do the job, they are in no way prepared to accept responsibility or to be accountable for actually delivering or supplying.
    So the argument is that we all have to give more power in order to ‘keep us safe’ from whatever/whichever potential problem but that power does not include the RESPONSIBILITY to deliver the so called protections.
    I wish I could run my business like that.
    Make an undertaking to deliver the product and/or service, get paid up front and then still get paid if I don’t deliver it!
    Farming would be an absolute snap easy job if we got paid whether we delivered or not.
    Service industries also would love that sort of arrangement I bet.
    The current CO2 tax is supposed to deliver us protection from (???????) .

  32. Comment from: kuhnkat


    Debbie,

    US Farm Subsidies are some of the largest in the world!!! You should consider having a farm here!! Some people spend more time deciding what NOT to plant and how much not to plant than what we would consider useful work!! 8>)

  33. Comment from: Johnathan Wilkes


    kuhnkat

    I don’t blame them and I don’t blame the Europeans either.
    At least they realise what food security means, same with manufacturing.

    Don’t say we must manufacture everything or grow everything
    but unless a nation lived through a lasting conflict or war limiting incoming supplies,
    their leaders and citizens don’t realise how vulnerable they actually are.
    I think it’s not a high price to pay.

    Yep I know many will disagree with me, but there you go, they disagree with me on other stuff too so what’s the difference?

  34. Comment from: Debbie


    KK,
    ‘Some people spend more time deciding what NOT to plant and how much not to plant than what we would consider useful work!!’
    Good point….it can and does happen in heavily subsidised areas.
    JW also has a good point about WHY it happens….but I would imagine that it has been over burdened by administration and extra legislation by the usual suspects?
    It is even starting to happen in OZ via ‘carbon farming’….so equally unproductive re food and fibre production.
    The RM Williams property (Henbury?) is a case in point.
    In general however, the food producing areas in OZ are actually required to PRODUCE something and DELIVER it in order to get paid.
    Assisstance comes in the form of EC (exceptional circumstances) ..although that is also being changed at present (by the usual suspects).
    They were originally designed like a type of insurance program where farmers are offered assisstance during periods like the recent severe drought and even more recent dramatic flooding.
    Subsides like the ones that operate in America and Europe, do not operate here.
    I have no problem with the reasons behind that happening….but I am not that impressed with the way it is administrated and implemented.

  35. Comment from: Johnathan Wilkes


    Debbie

    “but I am not that impressed with the way it is administrated and implemented.”

    Agreed, but once government gets involved there is no help, it will get over burdened by bureaucracy.
    Look at aboriginal affairs!

    Someone worked out, that just giving every aboriginal person about $50 000 a year and abolish all the bureaucracy, ministry, all and sundry, we’d still save about 40%!

    Only a measly 10% actually goes to the recipients it was intended to, the rest is eaten up by middlemen .

  36. Comment from: Robert


    From the OECD:

    “Support levels vary enormously among OECD countries. Over the 2008-10 period, New Zealand had the lowest level of support to farm receipts (PSE%), at just 1% of farm income, followed by Australia (3%), and Chile (4%). The United States (9%), Israel and Mexico (12%), and Canada (16%) were also below the OECD average.

    “The European Union has reduced its level of support to 22% of farm income, but remains above the OECD average. At the other end of the scale, support to farmers remains relatively high in Korea (47%), Iceland (48%), Japan (49%), Switzerland (56%) and Norway (60%).”

    It’s a naughty world, isn’t it? Still, with its massive oil and gas revenues, Norway can afford all kinds of nonsense. Needless to say, its stringent “emissions” policies come at the cost of a great deal of money and…

    emissions!

  37. Comment from: Neville


    A new study of past climate over the last 500 million years has an interesting assessment of slight recent warming. That is the last 160 years after the end of the LIA and should make Luke’s day.
    Here is the conclusion of the paper.

    Conclusions

    The available instrumental data of the last 160 years allow us to see that there occurred climatic fluctuations with a prevailing warming trend in the most recent past. However, when this period is examined in the light of the evidence provided by palaeoclimate reconstructions, it appears to be a part of more systematic fluctuations; specifically, it is a warming period after the 200-year ‘Little Ice Age’ cold period, during a 12,000-year interglacial, which is located in the third major icehouse period of the Phanerozoic Eon. The variability implied by these multi-scale fluctuations, typical for Earth’s climate, can be investigated by combining the empirical climacograms of different palaeoclimatic recon- structions of temperature. By superimposing the different climacograms, we obtain an impressive overview of the variability for time scales spanning almost nine orders of magnitude—from 1 month to 50 million years.

    Two prominent features of this overview are (a) an overall climacogram slope of -0.08, supporting the presence of HK dynamics with Hurst coefficient of at least 0.92 and (b) strong evidence of the presence of orbital forcing (Milankovitch cycles) at time scales between 10 and 100 thousand years. While orbital forcing favours predictability at the scales it acts, the overview of climate variability at all scales clearly suggests a big picture of enhanced change and enhanced unpredictability of Earth’s climate, which could be also the cause of our diffi- culties to formulate a purely deterministic, solid orbital theory (either obliquity or precession dominated). Endeavours to describe the climatic variability in deterministic terms are equally misleading as those to describe it using classical statistics. Connecting deterministic controls, such as the Milankovitch cycles, with the Hurst–Kolmogorov stochastic dynamics seems to provide a promising path for understanding and modelling climate.

    I’ve been saying this here for years, that we have been in a warming period since 1850 and this could be an obvious natural variation and might only be partly due to increases in co2 emissions.
    I’ve called it a recovery from the LIA, but call it what you will it really doesn’t matter. Just good to see this new paper stating the obvious.

  38. Comment from: Debbie


    Uh Oh!
    Luke
    (and to a lesser extent Bazza & Gavin),
    Robert has posted the figs I have suggested you to look up many, many times.
    Only 3%?
    Not only that….OZ farmers are way in front re ‘practices’ as well….if you would care to look up those stats.
    Sort of puts a bit of perspective on the wild rantings of the political rhetoric don’t you think?
    Whose snouts are greedily feeding from those troughs therefore?
    How expensive in terms of GDP was/is EC compared to the total social security budget?
    Who’s actually ‘over consuming’ and ‘wasting resources’?
    In fact….who appears to be ‘socialising losses’?
    Australian Agriculture?
    Hmmmmmm……don’t think so.
    Maybe you have mixed up the concepts of ‘long term investment’ and ‘socialising losses’?
    Might need a little extra lesson on CBAs perhaps???????

  39. Comment from: Neviller


    Good input from ex ABC chairman on CAGW and the warmists new religion.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/lets_see_if_newman_gets_away_with_mocking_the_warming_faith/#commentsmore

  40. Comment from: Robert


    Checking water usage and subsidies for rice world-wide will have you despairing of finding any “sustainable” or “free market” fairylands. Hasn’t Thailand been especially naughty of late! Still, with India and Vietnam dumping their huge stockpiles…

    But there’s one country that wastes less water than all the others, and whose subsidies don’t go far beyond some drought relief and marketing controls. Unfortunately, this country doesn’t appeal to hipster shoppers who like to express their global awareness by what they put in their supermarket trolleys. I won’t even mention the country’s name. (Hint: its opposition leader is a misogynist who constantly refers to women as “she”.)

  41. Comment from: el gordo


    Another blow to AGW theory.

    http://landshape.org/enm/still-no-weakening-of-the-walker-circulation/

  42. Comment from: Debbie


    Is there another pronoun for a female?
    Doesn’t ‘she’ call males ‘he’?

  43. Comment from: Johnathan Wilkes


    Debbie
    ” about WHY it happens”

    Debbie I lived in Switzerland for many years, my mother is Swiss, and if you go outside the big cities you’d notice why they support their farmers to the extent they do. The arable area is very small, comparatively speaking.
    Any conflict in their vicinity and they are cut off from outside trade!

    They are or I should say were fiercely, independent. Times change.
    Being an armed and army trained nation, so far they proved to be a prickly target not really worth taking on, the rewards are not there.

    We are stupid Debbie ruled by stupid and we take it like the sheep we are. And both side of politics are the same, out to screw us and rule us, one is just a bit more circumspect getting there that’s all. Sick of it all.

  44. Comment from: John Sayers


    Doesn’t ‘she’ call males ‘he’?

    no – she calls him ‘That Man”

  45. Comment from: Debbie


    No argument from me JW.
    History teaches us that we should protect our access to essentials.
    Things like food, water, shelter and energy.
    I am rather bemused that all this nouveau ‘higher level’ thinking and ‘higher level’ principles is systematically endangering future access to those essentials.
    I’m not sure how we could possibly have a ‘super global organism’ (or whatever) if secure access to those essentials have been trashed?
    I don’t believe that is ‘higher level’ thinking. I have a different name for it.
    Hmmmm. . . .
    ‘That man’? That’s an interesting and entirely clumsy way to avoid using pronouns. I guess it then becomes ‘those men’ or ‘those women’ instead of ‘them’???
    Good way to take up extra space & time in the MSM? :-)
    Can’t see any other reason for it.

  46. Comment from: gavin


    JW; are you OK? and, can we help?

    Talking about sheep,bet my inbox fills today with protest after ABC 4 Corners last night. Also Ludwig should get a beating from everyone including MSM.

    Deb; it seems in the absence of targets, you just wander around nodding at familiar posts and not trying hard at discovering reasons for broader views.

    Ever wondered what the PS is actually working towards? Getting agreements on any measures via the UN etc is a long and difficult process. Have I mentioned mutual recognition as a worth while concept before?

  47. Comment from: Debbie


    Good grief Gavin,
    I don’t think anyone thinks the PS is entirely redundant. I most certainly do appreciate the good, basic, ‘frontline’ services and think that is a sensible use of tax payer funding and always has been.
    But? ?
    Broader views? ? ?
    Mutual recognition ? ? ?
    Seriously? ?
    In what way do these ‘concepts’ supercede the sensible, responsible & secure access to essential products and services? How are they ‘higher order’ or ‘higher level’?

  48. Comment from: Neville


    More silly stuff from the BOM. This should appeal to Gav, Luke etc.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/overheating_detected/#commentsmore

  49. Comment from: Johnathan Wilkes


    gav, give me one good reason why I should read your garbage let alone answer.

    For your info , not that it’s any of your business, I’m fed up by being frustrated by council red tape on a building permit that should normally be a simple matter of right issue.

    And we have to vote for these morons!

  50. Comment from: el gordo


    Sea level is set to fall because of a 60 year oscillation.

    http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/there-60-year-oscillation-global-mean-sea-level

    AGW apparently has no legs.

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