Jennifer Marohasy

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Remembering, the Day After Tomorrow

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So, it may be difficult to remember a time in the future!  But do you remember the movie ‘The Day after Tomorrow’ when New York froze over?  That ice age was caused by changes in the circulation of warm water in the Atlantic Ocean, in particular the Gulf Stream closed down because of melting in the Arctic because of carbon dioxide.  Well, that was Hollywood!  Now, a mathematician, Professor Valentina Zharkova, is claiming an imminent big freeze, not because of carbon dioxide, but because of out of synch solar cycles.  DayAfterTomorrow

“In cycle 26, the two waves exactly mirror each other – peaking at the same time but in opposite hemispheres of the sun,” Zharkova told the Daily Mail.

So, I understand that when the number of sunspots is at a minimum, the sun’s general magnetic field is nearly dipolar.  What causes this?

I keep on intending to read-up more on the influence of the gravitational pull of the larger planets on the sun’s magnetism.  I would be interested in best references…

Meanwhile, here’s something from YouTube to amuse those who enjoy virtual horror with a real historical dimension.

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  1. Pathway says

    If earth history (geology) is a guide then we will surely enter another ice age in the not to distant future. One would guess that billions will starve.

  2. Geoff Brown says

    It is inevitable that our planet will revert to glaciation. The current interglacial is around 11,700 years, which is longer than average.

    When will Earth revert to its more natural state of ice age?

    The Russians and mainly a paper by solar physicist Habibullo Abdussamatov predicts the current lull in solar activity will continue and lead to a new Little Ice Age within the next 30 years.

    Little Ice Age we can survive, but can we survive full on glaciation. Shouldn’t we prepare for that?

    http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/new-paper-predicts-another-little-ice.html

  3. Geoff Brown says

    Incidentally, Youtube reports Al Gore’s fudge re the Movie “The day after Tomorrow.”

    In his Emmy-award winning documentary about global warming, Al Gore uses a clip that shows melting glaicers. However, the footage is actually a shot from “The Day After Tomorrow” and is 100% computer-generated. I wonder if Al will have to give back his Emmy and Nobel Prize?

    https://youtu.be/SnvJDwv3Z-w

  4. Glen Michel says

    At
    East the Malthusian Greenie Gaiians will get their wish.The Planet corrects itself in harmony with or bright little star.Ah well, what comes around……..

  5. Ian Thomson says

    Jen, the doco by the couple with the Irish name. Bought it through your own link , at the time. (Misplaced it ). It shows that segment and also Steve Schneider being dire too. I wonder if he will have a third incarnation ?
    From memory there were 5 winters in a row and six would’ve done it.
    He is not the best communicator, but Piers Corbyn has done a lot on it. There are things he’s done showing how the sun changes jet streams and how we actually are inside the corona.
    As Geoff Brown says Russians have been onto this.
    It was before the end of our drought, that I read where Russian experts told a Russian forum on Arctic exploitation , to hold up for 20 years or so, as we might have a LIA.
    They said that they realised some US scientists though it was warming, but they didn’t.
    (NASA, at the time were ignoring Russian records as unreliable, you know , like Rutherglen, but NASA couldn’t alter Russian ones. )

  6. Jim Sternhell says

    If the big chill were to occur, and remember the mini ice age started suddenly, skeptics will be out in force reminding the doomsayers of their previous convictions that we were all going to burn in hell. However, as is always the case with liars, they will point blank say they never said anything about global warming. interestingly, back in the 70’s, scientists were convinced we were heading for another ice age. The ‘solution’ was the same- destroy human energy technology which is the very basis of our society.

    in the history of humanity, collapsing societies are always extremely brutal. In our current softer-than-marshmallow society, the bleeding hearts could not possibly cope with the total collapse of society. Who would pay their unemployment benefits? Easter Island, the Mayans and other societies have collapsed suddenly and brutally and the archaeology very strongly shows this. Reign of terror after the French revolution is a relatively recent example well documented and it was not even a total collapse.

    Banning fossil fuel use altogether would very rapidly revert human technology back to the stone age. Without coal, how are we going to make the steel for those inefficient bird-munchers? How are we going to get food for those in cities? No food getting to cities- now i wonder what will happen/ What will become the dominant source of food? Yes, fellow humans. In China, during the Mao era, cannibalism was encouraged in some circumstances.

    What the brainless follower alarmists are too stupid to see is that abandoning technology and reverting to neolithic technology had a carrying capacity for humans of around 7 million, not 7 billion. You have to wonder how daft anyone can get to have 99.9% of humans die(largely brutally) to appease a theory that they refuse to even discuss? On a more sombre note, those who have the skillset to use computers will NOT be the sorts of people who have the brutal animal instincts to survive, let alone thrive in the wild with sticks and stones “technology.” Even those survivor shows do not contain viable communities that can have children and interact sort of peacefully with neighbouring tribes. It is quite possible that the only humans who could survive are the last remnant native tribes in africa and the Amazon. Remember, guns and ammunition will not be available either.

  7. Graham says

    Hi Jen, saw the reports of this phenomenon, and while they only modelled it over two cycles (I think) the correlation is pretty high, plus the causative mechanism looks very plausible.

    I don’t think planetary influences play on the sun. It is so massive compared to the planets that they would have less gravitational pull on the sun than headlice would on a school child. The sun comprises 99.8% of the mass of the solar system. Not much more than dandruff left over in the rest of the system.

  8. Max says

    Did anyone else notice how the current cold snap in NSW was almost promoted along the lines of The Day After Tomorrow?

  9. Ian Thomson says

    Hi Max, you just envy all those “storm chasers” , who draw purple maps, with lots of numbers and big WARNINGS!!!!

  10. James Mayeau says

    Just my luck. I lost my coat, and so counted on endless summer never bothered to get another one.

  11. James Mayeau says

    If the climate clowns start betting on an ice age instead of thermogeddon, my money will be on a big long climate same.

    It’s like an argument between Star Wars or Star Trek. There’s absolutely no difference.

    Remember when the climate conmen insisted that bouys be stationed to measure the gulf stream in SVERDRUPs, and they found out that their theory of thermosaline turnover was a sverdrup of crap?

    Good times.

  12. Neville says

    Another good post from WUWT. But how independent are the surface based data-sets? It seems they all use the same raw data and then add their own adjustments. How lucky we are to have the satellite data that shows no warming for over 18 years and according to McKitrick no SS warming for over a quarter of a century.
    Just listened to their ABC AM reporting about the above report and a NOAA person telling listeners we have record tempos and record SLs etc. Hasn’t their ABC heard of the more accurate and cooler satellite data?

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/16/what-noaa-ncei-isnt-telling-you-in-their-2014-state-of-the-climate-report-released-today/

  14. Ian Thomson says

    Found that documentary “Not Evil, Just Wrong”. James, the same bombardment which plays havoc with weather and jetstreams, while we are “uncharged” and unprotected , bashes the crust around too. One big bang and the LIA will get very B.

  16. James Mayeau says

    Here’s a shout out to Leonard Nimoy. The coming ice age – with Leonard Nimoy (full episode)


  18. bertie says

    There must be a kickback coming to some TV stations like channel 32.Been running The day after Tomorrow for so long ,sometimes 24 hours a day.Pretty sad that they are allowed to air this propaganda without some sort of fine.

  19. hunter says

    The Day After Tomorrow-
    Cheesy special effects, anti-science premise, poor acting and apocalyptic clap trap- what’s not like?