“IT seems to have gone virtually unnoticed, but the world leaders at the weekend’s G8 summit look as if they have taken the biggest step in years in tackling climate change. And it’s quite apart from anything to do with carbon dioxide.
“The summit’s final communiqué, the Camp David Declaration, supports; comprehensive actions’ to reduce “short-lived climate pollutants”. These substances – including black carbon (soot), methane, ground-level ozone, and hydrofluorocarbons – are responsible for about half of global warming…
“More important still, the measures would save some 2.4 million lives a year, mainly by cutting the inhalation of soot, chiefly emitted by vehicle diesel engines and by the inefficient wood and dung burning cook stoves used by most of the world’s poorest people – and increase grain harvests, at present hit by pollution, by 52 million tons a year. While the international climate negotiations drag on, these pollutants can be reduced through existing national laws and regulations, using technologies that are already available…
Read more here: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geoffreylean/100159272/g8-leaders-open-up-vital-new-front-in-the-battle-to-control-global-warming/
G8: Leaders open up vital new front in the battle to control global warming by Geoffrey Lean @ The Telegraph, May 22, 2012
William Martin says
sounds good, seeing is believing, the devil will be in the fine print.
John Sayers says
OT – Global warming is coming to an end: In the coming years the temperature over the entire planet will fall and the cooling will provide a character of relief. This is the conclusion reached by Russian scientists from the Physics University of the Russian Academy of Science.
The process of a general temperature decrease has already begun, according to the research. After having peaked in 2005, the average temperature on Earth is now returning to the level of the 1996-1997 years, 0.3°C lower.
According to the scientists, global temperatures will fall another 0.15°C by 2015, which corresponds to the climate of the early 1980s.”
http://notrickszone.com/2012/05/21/scientists-of-the-russian-academy-of-sciences-global-warming-is-coming-to-an-end-return-to-early-1980s-level/0/
kuhnkat says
Just when we are nearing the capability of extracting the methane from methane hydrates giving us more available energy than all other hydrocarbons they now want to control methane???
30 years later and we still have seen no evidence that their ban of fluorocarbons to protect the ozone layer has done anything but move cash around the economy.
John Sayers says
Donna Laframboise will tour Australia sponsored by The Institute of Public Affairs.
Melbourne
Friday, July 6th, 5-7:30 pm
venue: QC Functions, 113 Queen Street
Sydney
Tuesday, July 10th, 5-7:30 pm
venue: Sheraton on the Park, 161 Elizabeth Street
Brisbane
Thursday, July 12th, 5-7:30 pm
venue: Royal on the Park hotel, corner of Alice & Albert Streets
Perth
Sunday, July 15th, 5-7:30 pm
venue: I’m told this is a “Sundowner” function and have asked for more info
Neville says
Years of Tamino BS has been proven wrong thanks to Gavin Schmidt. Geeezzz if even RC can tell the truth occasionaly there may be a flicker of hope to see the end of a lot of the CAGW rubbish if we live long enough.
Full credit once again goes to Bob Tisdale, he makes the idiot team look like a mob of donkeys.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/05/22/gavin-schmidt-issues-corrections-to-the-realclimate-presentation-of-modeled-global-ocean-heat-content/#more-64108
Neville says
John here is Donna on the Bolt report.
John Sayers says
Yes Neville – I saw that report. Thanks for the link.
I’m booked into the Royal on the Park for that night. Hope to see some of you there.
gavin says
Guys; Blue Carbon is the topic of week according to our ABC
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/05/22/3508277.htm
Radio National today
“Carbon Challenge: Top End traditional owners and new carbon markets”
http://www.abc.net.au/rural/telegraph/content/2012/s3509239.htm
el gordo says
Instead of a tax to reduce industrial CO2, we could just pay the top enders to burn off less frequently.
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2000/09/28/189626.htm
The G8 would approve.
Aynsley Kellow says
It is probably worth reminding readers that controlling black carbon soot was part of the ‘Hansen Alternative Scenario’ a decade ago. The substantial co-benefits make this an attractive proposition, and it probably should be the first cab off the rank when it comes to mitigation options.
But this was the wrong answer, because it was seen as letting industrial countries off the hook, by not having to decarbonise their economies, and Hansen was excoriated by groups such as the Union of Concerned Scientists, and pulled his head in. The science basis has since been confirmed: black carbon soot is a substantial factor in warming over the Indian sub-continent.
So a sensible move: address this problem first, invest in adaptation, continue to evaluate warming and stop the stupidity of $23/tonne taxes.
hunter says
Carbon black could have been effectively and significantly reduced years ago, except for the CO2 profiteers and hypesters and their AGW obsessions.
kuhnkat says
Aynsley,
unfortunately they have tied continued suppression of GHG’s with the soot issue. If I complain about the stupidity of limiting methane emissions they will respond that I am against controlling soot, which our EPA has given an exagerated health effect.
This is more of the same from these morons.
Schiller Thurkettle says
Real pollution has measurably bad effects. Saving ‘some 2.4 million lives a year’? I think by that they mean 2.4 million people live one year longer and not people becoming immortal. I’d like to see the mathematics behind that wild guess. Factoring the effects of burning dung for cooking vs. cooking with coal-fired electricity would be interesting. Could well be that coal-fired electricity saves more than 2.4 million lives vs. the control group burning biomass on a personal basis.
Currently in the US there’s a big controversy over particulate pollution. The US EPA actually did an experiment, exposing actual human adults to levels of particulate ‘pollution’ which it considered to be ‘swiftly fatal’ and they all survived.