The UK’s summer floods of 2007 were a freak event unrelated to global climate change, according to a report from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology (CEH).
The key cause was that extended rains early in summer soaked soils that would normally have been dry at that time.
When heavy storms came later, water could not soak away into the ground.
The report said data does not support the notion that UK summer rainfall is increasing or rivers are showing faster flow rates than in previous years.
BBC website: 2007 floods ‘no link to climate’
There seems to be a conflict of opinion here between the CEH, Met Office, and the Environment Agency.
Jennifer Marohasy BSc PhD is a critical thinker with expertise in the scientific method.
Well that’s OK for the UK – as an aside AGW is starting up again downunder – bugger northern hemisphere (NH) snow shovellers – record heat wave in Adelaide, Australia. Was predicted of course by climate modelling. Australia is the epicentre and origin of the AGW phenomenon caused by convergence of NH CO2 clouds. 1000s will probably perish as a result. Denialists will have killed more people than Pol Pot and Hitler.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/11/2186329.htm
Paul: I can’t help it
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsPhotoPresentation.aspx?type=topNews&imageID=2008-03-10T153439Z_01_L10719654_RTRUKOP_0_PICTURE6.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-R2-RelatedPhotos-4
sorry
Interesting and factual link Luke, as far as the record broken for Adlaide days over 35C.
But from that link how on earth can you then attribute
1. AGW starting up again?
2. Australia is the epicentre and origin?
3. Caused by convergence of NH Co2 clouds?
4. 1,000’s will probably perish as a result?
5. Denialists will have killed more people than Pol Pot?
Heat got to you Luke?
The heat wave is a 75 year record, (thats what records are for)
Checked the last 7 days mean sea level charts and the next four days projected. Blocking high pressure system in the Tasman, which would cause nth winds across WA & Sth Australia. Looks to me like an autumn pattern has come in a bit early.
Here’s hoping …
“…….record heat wave in Adelaide, Australia. Was predicted of course by climate modelling……… ”
Did the models also predict the ‘record cool wave’ in February in SA?
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/silo/temp_maps.cgi?variable=maxanom&area=sa&period=month&time=latest
As for “Denialists will have killed more people than Pol Pot and Hitler”… well…. anyone who could seriously utter such a statement has clearly ‘lost the plot’.
Any one know where there is data for Adelaide I could not find it on BOM?
Any one know where there is data for Adelaide I could not find it on BOM?
DHMO see my last post on the Pielke thread
Thanks Gavin I was looking for a long daily record. 100 years would be good. BTW for Canberra the BOM rainfall records of Yass are very interesting.
Rog you say 75 years do you have accessible data?
Should have added Stalin too …
But seriously folks – back on extreme events locally (sorry UK), it appears extremes are changing. Gee maybe it’s all true after all chrisgo?
In
Australia, trends in extremes of both temperature and precipitation
are very highly correlated with mean trends. Annually,
the spatial correlation between trends in extremes and trends in
the mean is stronger for maximum temperature than for minimum
temperature. However, this relationship is reversed in
winter, when minimum temperatures show the stronger correlations.
Analysis of the rate of change of extremes and means
across Australia as a whole shows most stations have greater
absolute trends in extremes than means. There is also some evidence
that the trends of the most extreme events of both temperature
and precipitation are changing more rapidly in relation
to corresponding mean trends than are the trends for more
moderate extreme events.
Full article at http://www.bom.gov.au/amm/200701/alexander_hres.pdf
Bill Hare on ABC 7.30 Report
http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2008/03/12/2187890.htm
Paraphrasing Tim Blair today, barely mentioned on last night’s 7.30 Report is that Hare is a veteran Greenpeace activist,
http://news.sbs.com.au/worldnewsaustralia/greenpeace_blasts_climate_negotiators_137305
who formerly was billed as Greenpeace International climate policy director,
http://archive.greenpeace.org/pressreleases/climate/2001mar22.html
and who currently holds the title Greenpeace political advisor on climate change.
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/press/releases/greenpeace-launches-landmark-p
As Tim Blair so laconically put it, “Greenpeace is now evidently perceived as an embarrassment”.
Luke, the ever vigilant ambulance chaser
Further to my last post (if it passed security) is some background information on Dr Bill Hare.
http://junkscience.com/blog_js/2008/03/11/ngos-and-the-ipcc/
Poor Rog – reduced to drive by shootings and dribbling. Booooring.
chrisgo: I doubt anyone needed Tim Blair in deciding the 7.30 interview was weak on topic support.