No Global Warming for 13 Years
Posted by jennifer, October 30th, 2011 - under Information, News.
Tags: Climate & Climate Change
It was hailed as proof that the world has warmed, the preliminary findings released with much fanfare just a week ago from a new and more accurate method of computing changes in world temperatures. At least that was the claim made at the time by the head of the expert team, Professor Richard Muller, that global warming is real.
Now, following accusations from a colleague that the public comment was misleading, Professor Muller has acknowledged that the BEST data might also indicate that world temperatures have not risen for about 13 years.
It is really not such a big deal, except that many prominent Australians, including Tim Flannery and Tony Jones, absolutely cringe when people like me tell them there has been no warming for the past decade. Remember how upset Professor Flannery and the audience were on Q&A last October when I made that simple statement of fact. And Mr Jones continued the argument after the program, insisting that I was wrong. A clip of the relevant segment is here http://youtu.be/6M7R7fAfpsk .
Read about Professor Muller’s revised assessment of global warming here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2055191/Scientists-said-climate-change-sceptics-proved-wrong-accused-hiding-truth-colleague.html
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Scientist who said climate change sceptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague, by David Rose, in The Mail on Sunday, October 30, 2011
Jen, This looks interesting –
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/japanese-satellites-say-3rd-world-owes-co2-reparations-to-the-west/
Nice work Kuhnkat.
If regional cooling has already commenced we should see signs of it.
The astonishing CAO in Darwin and Brisbane last winter are not good examples. With La Nina intrenched it was the wettest October in NSW since 1976, same for the MDB and the fourth consecutive month with above average
rainfall.
With so much cloud about the temperatures were below average in NSW.
Severe Storms
October21–Isolatedthunderstormsacrossthestate
withsmall hail reportedinNullamanna, Bilpinand
This article at WUWT is a must read: context is everything.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/01/a-short-anthology-of-changing-climate/#comment-784622
Interesting summary by Bolt of the clueless Ehrlich and his clueless followers here in Australia.
Of course Robyn “100 metres” Williams interviewed this fool on the ABC. It’s amazing this fools failed predictions cover nearly half a century and yet the mad left are still stuck like glue to this idiocy. Just proves how delusional and mad these cultists really are.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_if_ehrlich_looked_starved_id_take_him_more_seriously/
On “http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/japanese-satellites-say-3rd-world-owes-co2-reparations-to-the-west/” – well you’d have to be a gullible drongo (like KookyKat) to be sprouting a map with no legend wouldn’t you. I thought it was a map of world vodka consumption myself. No legend – it could mean ANYTHING !
O/T…probably more relevant to the previous post…but check this out.
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2011/11/02/401931_latest-news.html
no legend Luke?
Are you colour blind?
Hey Little Lukey,
I realize you don’t have the wherewithal to actually look for the underlying paper and links to data so I added them over at Chiefio’s. Since you are probably afraid to go there and look now, here they are again:
Paper on reducing uncertainty that goes with the chart O’Sullivan put in his post:
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/sola/7/0/161/_pdf
Animation of about 2 years of data collected by the satellite on CO2 concentrations:
https://data.gosat.nies.go.jp/GosatBrowseImage/browseImage/XCO2_L3.gif
from this page:
http://www.gosat.nies.go.jp/index_e.html
Doesn’t look quite like the lurid pictures that Finglebeen and other alarmists would have us believe about the massive CO2 industrialized nations add to the atmosphere now does it?? Wonder if he has been checking it out yet?? Nope, man still can’t hold a candle to the output of the oceans or the Rain Forests!!
Tony Brown offers this historical viewpoint of changing climate.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/01/a-short-anthology-of-changing-climate/
For the last time; glaciers are still melting everywhere
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/chinas-himalayan-glaciers-melting-away/story-e6frg6so-1226176157808
“For the last time; glaciers are still melting everywhere”
For the last time? That’s a relief; poor bloody glaciers.
Incalcitrant glaciers.
Alice Springs enjoyed its coldest October on record, pity its only weather.
Gavin,
You are simply wrong about glaciers are still melting everywhere, if you mean that to imply they are shrinking everywhere- which of course you are seeking to imply.
Is it deliberate deception on your part?
http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm
Gavin,
“For the last time; glaciers are still melting everywhere”
except in the US where the large snow falls in the last three years have started expanding a number of them!! (snicker)
http://iceagenow.info/2011/11/glaciers-growing-rockies/
(has links to real reports)
http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/science-updates/climate-change-actually-causing-some-us-glaciers-to-grow
As the US has not been the exception to extra snow and cold I would think other areas in the Norther Hemisphere are also having similar Glacial Growth!! Alaska and Cali had already been exceptions to Goreball Warming melting the glaciers!!
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/2862759.htm
some NZ glaciers growing.
http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm
Apparently when it is cold SOME glaciers can still be melting and when it is warm SOME can still grow. Goreball Warming apparently has little to do with it!!
Gee, Guys; all I did was google GLACIERS, news, Oct 2011 to be updated for my first comment. No other guide required!
Meanwhile in Queensland its been wet and they experienced the ‘third lowest October state-averaged mean maximum temperature in 61 years of record.’
It feels like regional cooling but…
Jennifer I watched some of the Q&A link.
You say that the temperature rose about .8 over 150 years and that for the last decade practically nothing despite CO2 rising significantly in that time. You say this is measured data. Flannery starts talking about something else and pretends you disagree on the overall rise and saying it is more than CO2. So why are we putting a tax on it? Then Tony Jones switches the argument back to Greg Hunt, what the!! I then switched off. I don’t watch Q&A it produces nothing worthwhile and has a stacked audience. It is a cheer squad they do not listen and have no idea what a rational argument is.
EG,
Take your pick from the litany.
. . . . It’s just, weather, noise, a wiggle/wobble etc
Did anyone notice the new post at Jonova? Don’t know how to link it from this tablet thingy.
Worth a look.
I agree with your comment re Q & A Mike. At least they weren’t asked questions about a Catholic saint this time.
I see we are back into big snowfall in the NH already . Poor buggers sitting in planes , on the tarmac, for 7 hours. In October.
Hold it, isn’t it accumulated snowfall that makes glaciers grow ?
I find this a worry, myself. What if it gets cold here ? I mean eventually.
No-one can afford to stay warm now.
Q and A -I have been an avid reader of some of Tim’s writings . The expression on his face, when Jennifer was speaking disgusted me- Before he opened his mouth.
Not sure if the growing glaciers in the Rockies have been mentioned, for Gav’s edification.
http://news.yahoo.com/old-snow-stays-rockies-adds-glaciers-size-232221522.html
Jennifer, I know where you are coming from in regards to 911.I’ve met Prof Neils Harrit and Prof Steven Jones.They are sincere and honest people.We need more of them.
A long guest post by Philip Bradley, worth a look.
http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2011/11/4/australian-temperatures.html
It is said that increasing CO2 follows a warming climate. So, does this mean no warming for the last 13 years means no increase in CO2 for the last 13 years?
NAH!
I just think it proves that they don’t really know as much as they think they do.
Bloody climate just refuses to co operate with their predictive modelling and keeps indicating that maybe CO2 is NOT a key driving factor that can be clearly plotted and accounted for. Maybe it’s just a symptom and not a cause?
Mother Nature (if our climate and environment was actually a personality) is just proving to be as ‘mysterious’ and unpredictable as she always was.
She ( if our climate and environment actually had a gender) is no more the friend of ‘climate scientists and environmental scientists’ than anyone else.
I’m seriously starting to question who needs to be protected from what or whom? The emerging data is certainly not making that clear at all!
It’s getting murkier and murkier and murkier with each passing season both NH and SH
Found this at Crikey.
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2011/11/16/it-hasnt-warmed-since…/
Probably deserves a rebuttal.
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