I always get up early, but this is the first morning I’ve turned the Olympics on. Channel 9 on live television, the commentators are reporting very excitedly about the events that the Australians athletes are in, and after that everything – except the boxing. The boxing so far, this morning, is being denied.
It is the only reason that I have the television on so early. I’ve found the match that I am wanting to know about on – or at least live updates on the Aljazeera news channel. According to the latest update:
Khelif vs Yang: Round three
Yang has it all to do now and she looks disappointed by the judges scoring in the last round.
Khelif knows a knockout is unlikely as the Chinese fighter doesn’t have huge power, and the Algerian beckons her on.
Khelif lands with a great right hand and follows it up with a left hook. Yang is having to look for an opening and she catches Khelif with a big left as she presses forward.
The Algerian has her hands down at her hips, wanting Yang to attack. She shakes her head as Yang misses some shots.
The bell goes and Khelif is delighted, while Yang looks resigned to defeat.
Khelif was just too good for her.
4m ago (21:09 GMT)
Khelif vs Yang: Round two
Khelif comes forward, starting the round aggressively. She looks more willing to let her hands go after that good first round.
Khelif has all the strength advantages that come with an XY chromosome – everything except a penis. That is because of a development disorder in the womb.
Imane Khelif, an Algerian man without a penis, slogging it out against Chinese woman Yan Liu. They are slogging it out for the gold medal.
If the Russians were at this Olympics this match would not be happening, rather there would be two women in the ring.
And it has just been declared gold medal to Imane Khelif.
It is being excited reported across Twitter:
What a woman.
The biological reality is that this is just another lie. As they move us away from what we know intuitively.
All part of undermining our capacity to understand the world according to the evidence.
The preference is now for narrative, as the ultimate deciding factor even when it comes to gender.
But. We are not fishes. We have the capacity to organise to create a kinder and fairer world for our own species. But unlike fishes we can’t change sex. Fish gonads contain both male and female tissues, and sex change occurs when one outgrows the other.
This happens, for example, with Humphead wrasses when the dominant terminal male dies; one of the females becomes male and grow to be larger. In contrast, humans and other mammals determine sex via a gene on the male-only Y chromosome.
Barbara Sheppard says
Reality is no longer based on evidence. As Jen says, this is:
“All part of undermining our capacity to understand the world according to the evidence.”
“The preference is now for narrative” explains why so many people now believe that anthropogenic CO2 is the cause of catastrophic climate change, and that the Great Barrier Reef is dying.
As humans, we should believe in our intuition, especially when the evidence does not support the narrative.
The boxing fiasco is just one example of idiocy prevailing over scientific fact. Common sense is lost to ideology.
Don Gaddes says
The Algerian obviously had ‘God’ on His/Her side.
I note a seeming majority of participants in all sports, invoking the assistance of a Deity before their endeavours – and invoking the same fervour, in commiseration or celebration afterwards – especially the crucifix-adorned.
jennifer says
The following commentary, from Sky News, that I would expect to at least explain the nature of the ‘controversy’.
“Controversial boxer Imane Khelif has won gold at the Paris Olympics, ensuring the furore surrounding her eligibility to compete in women’s events will continue long after the Games are finished.
Khelif defeated China’s Liu Yang in front of a packed house at Roland Garros.
Most of about 15,000 fans who filled Court Philippe Chatrier at the famous French tennis venue were there to support the Algerian boxer, who has been at the centre of one of sport’s biggest controversies.
There was a deafening roar when Khelif was introduced to the ring, and boos for her Chinese opponent.
They chanted “Imane, Imane, Imane” throughout the bout and roared in approval when the Algerian delivered a flurry of blows to her opponent’s head in the first round.
Khelif never looked troubled in the gold medal bout and was declared the unanimous victor.
But her gold medal is sure to provoke further debate about whether she should have been allowed to compete in Paris… End quote.
Christopher Game says
Marxist world government WEF agitprop aims to destroy our cultures and nations.
Don Gaddes says
The Council of Nicaea, convened by Emperor Constantine in in 325, to thrash out various theological differences, (such as the dates of Easter and the nature of the relationship between God and Jesus), did not require the presence of any women.
The Patriarchy of the Roman Catholic Church, (and the society it underpins,)excludes and exploits women to the present day. There is no point in just railing against this fabricated patriarchy, a workable solution should be considered;
The Priests, Churches (and their attendant Monarchies,) must be expunged from the Planet. This would require Religion to be eradicated from the education system. (Withdrawal of public funding for any institutions promoting Religion would seem a logical start.)
Society should be subject to Social Contract – negotiated with equanimity between Men and Women – taking account of their responsibility for the stewardship of the Planet and its resources.
Karen Klemp says
Here’s the “nature of the controversy” summarized…
“In reality, the SRY gene on the Y chromosome triggers the development of TDF and SOX9 proteins, which induce maleness. If this gene is inactive or absent due to a biological disorder, a person can be female despite having a Y chromosome. Conversely, if the SRY gene is expressed on another chromosome, someone with XX chromosomes can be male instead of female. Additionally, there are numerous known and unknown hormonal factors that determine a person’s gender. Simply having a Y chromosome or high testosterone levels does not guarantee maleness, especially when female reproductive organs are present.
In this context, Iman Khelif is not a trans person but a woman with some abnormal hormonal disorders. Undoubtedly, these disorders may give her a physical advantage over other women, but that doesn’t warrant labeling her as “male.”
Don Gaddes says
The young male Cuttlefish can disguise itself as female, to gain access to the ‘harem’ of possessive adult males….Nature at work.
Karen Klemp says
I’m surprised that Jenn as a Scientist and a Woman, is so influenced by male dominated conservative commentators.
Jennifer Marohasy says
Karen Klemp
Can’t you see the Emma Hilton is a woman. My link is to a female biologist, in the above post.
Can’t you see that?
I consider the interview that Emma Hilton did, now posted at YouTube, to be expert opinion that did have an influence on me and so I link to it in my post.
Peter Etherington-Smith says
The interview with Ms Hilton is very informative, lucid and explaining clearly a complex subject which fortunately impacts only a very small minority of people. They are certainly not to be envied but a few have very regrettably been co-opted to feed the egos of ideological idiots. Whether or not the Algerian and Chinese persons in question were willing participants or dupes we cannot know but the opprobrium should be visited on the the heads of their country authorities and especially the IOC reprobates.
Barbara Sheppard says
The interview with Dr Emma Hilton was enlightening. Males and females have a distinct developmental biological difference. In rare cases, a developmental disorder may lead to confusion in sexual identity, but the biological difference between male and female physicality should not be denied. Particularly in a boxing ring!
Karen Klemp says
“Disorders of sex development (DSDs) are defined as congenital conditions in which chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomic sex is atypical. They occur at a frequency of 1–3% (including hypospadias).”
I wouldn’t call that “rare”.
Christopher Game says
Now I understand why people talk of ‘Karens’.
Karen Klemp says
@Christopher game, if you really were concerned about Marxist world government, you would be interested to note that the only time Khelif’s “identity as a woman has been questioned was when the IBA performed an unspecified gender eligibility test shortly after Khelif defeated Russian boxer Azalia Amineva, who was previously undefeated, at the 2023 world championships. At the time, Khelif referred to her disqualification as a “conspiracy.” The suspicious timing of the test, combined with the lack of transparency around the results, should have raised immediate concerns, especially since the IBA is the only source of the allegations against Khelif. The IOC has also long been at odds with the IBA over a series of corruption scandals, accusations of poor governance, and worries about the organization’s president, Umar Kremlev, and his ties to the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin—conflicts that led to the IBA being stripped of its authority to regulate Olympic boxing.”