ON 10th June 2014 I sent the Hon Greg Hunt MP, Minister for the Environment, an email suggesting that a cooling temperature trend was establishing across northeastern Australia.
I recently received a reply from the Bureau with a covering letter from Senator Simon Birmingham, in response to this email and also my letter of 4th March. I will reply in due course.
Interestingly on the sixth page of this document, the Bureau both makes the point that 2013 was the hottest year on record for Queensland, while conceding that the period 2002-2013 shows short-term cooling.
This potential tangling of trends is not acknowledged, let alone reconciled in the document from the Bureau.
According to the Bureau the cooling is consistent with increases in monsoonal rainfall. But I thought there was drought over much of this period, that is from 2002-2013?
At the top of the next page (scroll to page 7), the Bureau points out that over time periods sufficiently long for ENSO-related variability to be smoothed out, there is a clear and sustained warming signal from the 1950s onwards.
I don’t think I ever disputed that the late 20th Century experienced warming, but the point that seems to be lost on the Bureau is that a cooling trend may have since set-in. Indeed, Table 1 (reproduced from my email to the Minister of 10th June) suggests quite dramatic cooling.
Of course in my email of 10th June I explained why this cooling is irreconcilable with the claims in the State of the Climate Report 2014 of record warming. It comes down to the apparent recent record warm years being a consequence of the two-step homogenisation process providing a revisionist approach to ensure the official temperature statistics are politically correct.
Jennifer Marohasy BSc PhD is a critical thinker with expertise in the scientific method.
Thanks for releasing this correspondence. At a glance, it is a good reply from the core at BoM who remain firm on their warming trends over cooling. Now can you accept the broarder implications for QLD?
“Now can you accept the broarder [sic] implications for QLD?”
That BoM will go on adjusting temperature records in this ludicrous fashion?
Don’t think so. The claim that 2013 was the hottest on record is absurd. Even new arrivals and people prone to being influenced by propaganda are starting to notice.
Quote:”According to the Bureau the cooling is consistent with increases in monsoonal rainfall. But I thought there was drought over much of this period, that is from 2002-2013?”
Here is the BoM in 2003 claiming the drought is permanent:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2003/09/18/946924.htm
In 2008:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/this-drought-may-never-break/2008/01/03/1198949986473.html
In 2009, the BoM claimed the drought was permanent, with further drought warnings:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/drought-and-fire-here-to-stay-with-el-ninos-return-20090216-899u.html#ixzz1nrZUq1ik
But, in 2012, after 3 years of floods, 38 dead in 2011, and with carbon(sic) @400ppm, Australia was declared drought free.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–11_Queensland_floods
Not a word from the BoM.
Not a media release like above.
Not an apology.
Not even a note on any BoM website declaring this once in a life time climate event over.
A worthy event on any meteorological footnote.
Or, would have been if they predicted it.
Some said it was a political announcement as the greenlaboUr government were desperate to find money by ending drought relief programmes.
May 2013 New Zealand then declared it was drought free!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-06/nz-drought-over/4671688
Further evidence it was not a political announcement.
Nor was Global Warming ‘Global’.
The antipodes drought free!
Defying ALL catastrophic predictions by the 97% of consensus settled climate science, as practised & promoted by the BoM.
And to the detriment of 38 people in 2011.
So, July 2013, The Angry Summer and they’re back!
Now it’s not ozone or smog, but El Niño.
And this time, they have the best & latest.
And they are confident, despite a decade & litany of total failures.
http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2013/07/scientists-unveil-new-and-improved-el-niño-forecasts/
97% of climate science, as quoted by the BoM when it suits is 90% confident:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/11/-sp-el-nino-weather-2014
4 weeks later: 50%
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
More summer floods?
Should we prepare?
If 400ppm of carbon(sic) and no droughts, what is causing the droughts in 2014?
How the Hon Greg Hunt MP, Minister for the Environment can oversee such failure and not at least question what is wrong with our meteorological services is astounding.
Due Diligence?
Oops.
Missed one link:
It’s official: Australia no longer in drought
Date
April 27, 2012
http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/its-official-australia-no-longer-in-drought-20120427-1xpsp.html
Agricultural Giant says climate change is an absolute reality..
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-10/agricultural-giant-says-climate-change-absolutely-real/5659058
Martin I think you’ll find it difficult to get through to Gav, he’s a true believer and nothing will budge him. Climate history tells us that temps rise and fall over short, medium and very long intervals, but the true believers ACTUALLY believe that today’s weather/ climate/temp is somehow unique and very bad for us.
That’s the 7+ bn of us, not the 1 bn by 1800 or the 2 billion by 1900. On average the 7bn+ people live about 35 years longer than the 2bn people lived in 1900 and even the 3rd world live much longer with better nutrition and health as well. The standard of living for rich and poor is much higher today than it was just 50 years ago and obviously 100 or 200 years ago.
Everyone today is richer and even the poorest countries have more calories per person than at anytime in the past.
We know that some of the popular icons used in this scam are now little different and sometimes better than other historical periods. Some of these icons like polar bears, extreme weather events, global ice extent, droughts, floods, tornadoes, cyclones, bushfires, SLR, cold events, heatwaves, the planet’s greening etc are much easier to live with now than in some other periods long ago and very recently. Like the LIA.
For example our Holocene overall is cooler than the last 4 inter- glacials ( long ago) and the LIA was a period of extremes and most of the world’s glaciers reached a maximum advance during this period.
Gav, Luke , bazza, JC etc can’t even answer the Bolt temp question so we know they are not worth the effort.
Good sleuthing Jennifer.
A cooling trend in Qld might be the tip of the iceberg, time to go cherry picking.
Gosh JC at least we agree the climate changes, so I suppose that’s a start. See my post above. And yes 100% of the sceptics at the Las Vegas conference believe that there is some AGW in the system. But most wouldn’t believe in CAGW and I ‘d say most would believe that some warming may be better for us. See my post above.
” Climate history tells us that temps rise and fall over short, medium and very long intervals,”
It’s not the temp’ rising and falling over long periods that is the concern, Neville. It is the sudden and erratic weather systems that do the damage…ask Debbie what risks the farmer takes in getting a “feel” for the season before they invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in cropping, all on the whim of of erratic weather…it’s ok for some to sit in their comfy spare room with a PC. tapping out spiteful missives, WE have the luxury of just closing the window against the weather…but the broadacre farmer or irrigator cannot be so blase’ about climate change and erratic weather…Isn’t that right, Debbie?
“…the Bolt temp question …” I believe THAT temp’ has risen exponentially over the last few days, Nev’ !
JC did you read my first post above? Today’s weather/climate/temp is probably much better than many recent and long ago periods. But as I said above, how come we have 7 bn people living easier and longer lives than even 50 years ago?
If you farmed even 50 years ago you knew a lot less about ENSO? and the PDO and IOD were unknown until very recent times although they probably existed for many thousands of years at least. Of course 100 years ago forecasts were very primitive and very little use to the average farmer.
As I’ve said before, try thinking before you write.
JC you haven’t answered the Bolt question. Try again.
Cherry picking shows promise …
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=3165
JC here’s one of Bolt’s old posts with IPCC lead author prof Roger Jones’s answer, but does co2 really have a strong impact on the climate? If the impact is say 1c for doubling of co2 the resultant temp increase would be a lot less than RJ’s estimate. But here’s the Bolt question from Jason Fong and answer. —————
“The very point of Australia’s carbon tax is to reduce global warming. How much will reducing 5% of Australia’s around 1.5% contribution of global CO2 emissions reduce global temperature by? If the amount is negligible (which it is), then given the present economic turbulence, what is the probability of Australia’s carbon tax inspiring major emitters like USA, China and India to make ACTUAL cuts to their C02 emissions (as opposed to mere carbon intensity) and economic growth? – -Jason Fong,”
The exercise proved to be valuable. It forced an answer from IPCC lead author Professor Roger Jones that at best, assuming carbon dioxide emissions really did have a strong effect on rising temperatures, Gillard’s cuts would cause the world’s temperature to fall by just 0.0038 degrees by 2100. Essentially nothing
Yes…I read “your post above”, Neville…..and it worries me that the tool of “economic rationalism” is become a social philosophy. One can get more calories from junk food that good food and one can live longer through drug intervention than with natural events…your generalisations, like those from scientists that you mock, are meaningless….it is the quality of life that matters, Neville…it is writ that London is one of the most crowded cities on the planet, but one can die of loneliness in such a city…Your panacea for human contentment and nourishment is facile at the best and naive at the worst….
And sure, a warming may feel great for some of us…but Jen’ , being a biologist, could tell you that unless that warming is of such a nature and over such a timescale that the immune system of humans grows in concert with the microbiology that will thrive in such conditions, we will suffer much more than the bacteria around us……and THEN we will have to take more drugs to survive!
‘And yes 100% of the sceptics at the Las Vegas conference believe that there is some AGW in the system.’
The Denialati think that is crap.
Neville…your “Bolt’s Dilemma” hypothesis is the equivalent of the captain of a super-tanker choosing between starting to turn the behemoth from a path of collision before it is inevitable or just giving up on the possibility and becoming resigned to going down with the ship!
and anyway…mine was a pun on the Bolt and 18c. legislation.
It appears that after the introduction of ACORN in early 2012, Australia has recorded its hottest day, month, season and year – all within the past 2 years.
The data base uses around 110 stations only and uses shading to fill in the rest.
The system is flawed and has involved changing the temps prior to the 1950s – some up but most down.
Why has the ACORN system managed to escape criticism from those in authority?
The BoM has the same problem as the rest of the 7 billion of us.
Not a single soul has a clue what future climate will be like. The understanding of sun, orbits, deep hydrosphere, volcanism, asthenosphere etc etc is just not there. Understandable, of course, when you contemplate just what a “climate science” would need to be.
If the climate warms we know (and used to be able to say) that it did that during the MWP, the Roman Warming, the Minoan, and, above all, in the Optimum. If the climate cools, it’s done that too. A very brief ten thousand years ago you could have from Vic to Tassie. Don’t reckon it’s been a bit of a rocky Holocene? Or do you think there was a brief transition before a stable climate was established?
The trouble with bodgie science is the same as with bodgie alternative energy. These things soak up the trillions and discredit the very things they claim to promote.
I’m happy to see millions spent and even lost in valuable speculation and experimentation. Trillions no.
And what you don’t know, you don’t know. You might want to know and need to know. You might know in the future. But want you don’t know…you don’t know!
Jaycee.
Yes farming is a risky business.
But no. . .The increased risks are not due to the weather/climate . All farmers gamble with the weather. . .even us irrigators. . .that is not new . . .and apart from the millennium drought & its spectacular end in 2012 . . . The weather/climate is not behaving any more erratically than usual.
I agree that interference by people who drive to work in their climate controlled cars ( or public
transport) from their climate controlled homes to their climate controlled offices & have secure& controlled incomes is proving to be next to useless.
I also get a little annoyed by these same people when they pretend they know & understand agriculture.
They don’t. . . their ideas are usually regressive and overly romantic.
Wanna take a guess what most farmers would tag as posing the greatests risks to their businesses?
(Hint: it’s not the climate/weather/environment)
” Wanna take a guess what most farmers would tag as posing the greatests risks to their businesses?”
Don’ tell me!!!…….The mother in law!
I don’t know why I bother but here goes. JC why bother turning your tanker around because of a delusion? There is ZIP evidence that we can change the global weather/temp/co2 levels/ climate for thousands of years. Just refer to the 2014 RS and NAS joint report.
But please tell us of this golden era that you’d like us to find? Perhaps the LIA or the much warmer Holocene optimum and much higher SLs or perhaps the 6c to 8c warmer Eemian IG with SLs 5 to 7 metres higher than today.
And if even the Gillard govt couldn’t care less about increasing coal exports and higher co2 levels then why should you? Sure they tried their level best to wreck our economy and hurt our businesses and job opportunities at home, but that just adds to their stupidity and hypocrisy.
” …Sure they tried their level best to wreck our economy and hurt our businesses and job opportunities at home, but that just adds to their stupidity and hypocrisy. ”
In the light of the Holden’s , Toyota, allied local manufacturing, ship-building, renewable energy manufacturing, Russia bans and I won’t go on because I’ve forgotten how many other gaffes that have cost jobs and financial security….are any of you others here absorbing that?
‘….are any of you others here absorbing that?’
Jools was a blight on the landscape, whereas the pragmatic monk has the savvy to rule for a decade.
The Howard govt left us with low unemployment, at least eight surplus budgets after paying off Labor’s 98bn $ debt and JC has the hide to whinge.
The Abbott govt only came to power about 10 months ago after Labor’s 2 clueless govts and a much bigger mess and debt to fix. They’ve already got rid of the job and business destroying co2 tax and stopped the boats and people smugglers. So what more do you want?
And please tell us what you would have done about the ex KGB thugs antics? Abbott received a solid endorsement from all world govt leaders and Shorten is even more vitriolic than Abbott about the Russian bans. Who do you support anyway?
Why do some extreme warmists suddenly embrace safe nuclear power and some other extremists still tell lies about it? True there is zip we can do about temps at all but why not agree to spend our money on reliable 24/7 base load power instead of idiotic solar and wind.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/09/dont-mention-the-nuclear-option-to-greens/
HIGHLY ALARMING REPORT
An alarming interaction between ozone depletion and global warming may explain why Australia’s southern cities and farms have lost 20% of their rainfall in the last 30 years.
The claims are aired tonight on ABC-TV’s Catalyst program.
“It really is a revolution in the climate sciences”, said Dr David Jones, chief analyst of the National Climate Centre at Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology in Melbourne. “We can’t just look at natural variability or greenhouse climate change in isolation – we also have to factor in ozone.”
ABC
Was that 20% part of what southern cities and farms GAINED post WW2 till the end of the 70s, after a half century of rainfall deficit, even taking in the Long Drought 1958-1967?
But we’re dealing with the ABC and David Jones. I always wondered how they could possibly tamper with rainfall, since that’s a lot harder than fiddling and adjusting temps.
Looks like we’re getting the answer now.
egg, not so long ago a property came up for sale just down the road from where I grew up
When I left home in 1970, the district rainfall was always quoted as 17″. Had been ever since I could remember. However, 40-odd years later in newspaper ads for the neighbour’s farm, the rainfall was now being quoted as 19″.
Whilst it seems strange to me that the “experts” are saying rainfall has decreased 20% over the last 30 years maybe, to be fair, the old rain gauges were hard to read – just like the old temperature gauges.
Nah Jaycee.
I adore my MIL. So does her son and her grandchildren. She is seriously one of the most amazing people I know.
🙂
So even though you want to lecture others about what farmers face & then appeal to me , who happens to be a dinky di, ridgy didge farmer. . .you don’t really want to know?
Why am I not surprised?
Not willing to take a genuine & interested & thoughtful guess?
In the last 30 years we’ve been under the influence of a warm PDO and positive IODs for much of that time. Certainly a warm PDO from abou1976 to 1998 at least ,so there were more el ninos in that time.
And the positive IODs were very noticeable from 1990s through to the 2000s. In fact the positive IODs were much like the 1940s drought as well.
So we could expect both to contribute strongly to lower rainfall over the last 30 years. But Vic doesn’t look too bad when we check the record.
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/change/timeseries.cgi?graph=rain&area=vic&season=0112&ave_yr=T
And southern OZ has a good positive trend and so has SA state. Here’s southern OZ http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/change/timeseries.cgi?graph=rain&area=saus&season=0112&ave_yr=T
JC don’t put words in my mouth. Many times here over the years I’ve finished off a post by saying” who knows.” And I mean it , but I’m very certain there is zip we can do about AGW mitigation and this is backed up by many warmists like the RS and NAS etc.
The science , maths and historical observations prove the point.
But tell us, is Roger Jones correct or not when he claims our efforts will reduce temps by less than an unmeasurable four thousandths of a degree C by 2100? Yes or no.
Here is prof. Roger Jones IPCC lead author ex CSIRO etc At least he had the nerve to answer Bolt’s question, after much prompting.
http://www.business.vu.edu.au/staff/rogerjones/ And the average of the two satellite data sets will satisfy me. Therefore ZIP SS warming now for about 20 years. BTW there seems to be a rumour that UAH will be closer to RSS in the near future.
several comments deleted. i could have kept going. this is not an open thread. links to information on other topics should be posted at the ‘Open Thread’… and remember we want thoughtful comments not inane chit chat… thanks.
It is only a month but Australian minimum temps for last month are in defiance of the warming minimums part of the AGW predictions.
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/temp/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=minanom&period=month&area=nat
The the warm maximums partly cancel the mins. So the average for the month was cool.
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/temp/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=maxanom&period=month&area=nat
Doubt there will be a “Hottest ever year claim for 2014”.
Great material from Dr Jennifer as always! Actual readings of specific parameters from specific places over specific dates. It is so refreshing to have tangible facts instead of media-orientated pseudo-science.
Presumably linear regression has been applied to the maximum temperature readings to obtain the trends? It would be good to have a worked example for one of the sites to show the precise method.
The climate/weather isn’t a record breaking hit single or sporting event anyway.
Neither is it ‘owned’ & ‘protected’ or even ‘endangered’.
The 2013 ‘hottest ever’ claim was pure nonsense from the get go.
Good for Jen , Abbot and everyone else who is laying the boot in over those silly claims.
BoM needs to wake up & realise it is losing its way.
They have many excellent services & access to an impressive pool of talent. . .so sad that their focus & therefore their funding & their PR has been hijacked.
‘Solar physicist Dr. Leif Svalgaard has revised his reconstruction of sunspot observations over the past 400 years from 1611-2013. Plotting the “time integral” of sunspot numbers from Dr. Svalgaard’s data shows a significant increase in accumulated solar energy beginning during the 1700’s and continuing through and after the end of the Little Ice Age in ~1850.
‘After a ~30 year hiatus, accumulated solar energy resumes a “hockey stick” rise for the remainder of the 20th century, followed by a decline beginning in 2004, all of which show remarkable correspondence to the HADCRU3 global temperature record.’
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.fr/2014/08/its-sun_9.html
Thanks Egg.
Dr Svalgaard’s predicitions more-or-less accord with the data in Table 1. As do David Archibald’s.
Dr David Evan’s model was out by about 5 years… but I think he has since withdrawn it, pending some necessary revisions? It will be interesting to see if his revised solar model forecasts/hindcasts cooling from 2003.
Jen,
FYI
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/nasa-has-nearly-doubled-post-1940-global-warming-through-post-2001-data-tampering/
Even the record hot-spots are getting cold:
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2014/08/05/global-warming-death-valley-shatters-cool-temperature-record
Big Apple is another cherry pick.
http://nypost.com/2014/08/08/summer-2014-is-coldest-in-a-decade/
MADISON, Wis. — ‘When the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change recently requested a figure for its annual report, to show global temperature trends over the last 10,000 years, the University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Zhengyu Liu knew that was going to be a problem.
“We have been building models and there are now robust contradictions,” says Liu, a professor in the UW-Madison Center for Climatic Research. “Data from observation says global cooling. The physical model says it has to be warming.”
WUWT
Yes, egg, but it’s all about hiding the decline:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/what-part-of-this-isnt-clear-3/
Hi hatrack,
Yup to that, we live in an age, where what was known before computers , was not true. NO dumb explorer, with the best equipment, or farmer , with a rain gauge, had any clue.
Walk outside , think it is raining ?
If only you were qualified to measure that.
Thanx Spangles, lovely stuff.
Early indications suggest a chilly US winter around the corner.
http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2014/08/11/growing-signs-coming-winter-colder-snowier-last/?utm_content=bufferf2202&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Jen
FYI – in a surrounding paddock
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/what-part-of-this-isnt-clear-3/
‘WHAT if David Archibald’s book, “The Twilight of Abundance. Why Life In The 21st Century Will Be Nasty Brutish and Short”, turns out to be right? What if the last 50 years of peace, cheap energy, abundant food, global economic growth and population explosion have been due to a temporary climate phenomenon? What if the warmth the world has enjoyed for the past 50 years is the result of solar activity, not man made CO2?
‘In a Letter to the Editor of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Usokin et al, produced the “first fully adjustment-free physical reconstruction of solar activity”. They found that over the last 3,000 years the modern Grand maxima which occurred between 1959 and 2009, was a rare event both in magnitude and duration. This research adds to growing evidence that climate change is determined by the sun not humans.’
Maurice Newman /Oz
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/us-administration-and-tony-abbott-have-meeting-of-minds-on-climate-change-20140813-103pq8.html
Did Kerry really say that?. . .or does he need to look at his PR department?. . .or is the SMH looking for some drama?. . .or?
” The Barack Obama administration has made climate change a priority.
Mr Kerry is especially fervent. In February he said that it was ”the world’s most fearsome” weapon of mass destruction.
He has described sceptics of the science of man-made climate change as members of the ”Flat Earth Society” and said he and Mr Obama had no time for them.”
US Temperature Tampering
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/three-degrees-of-ncdc-data-tampering-in-maryland/
Egg
Good lord!
As Neville often says. . .even someone with kindy level maths can see that the numbers are simply not adding up.
Had to cool the observed past records by 3 degs F to achieve a present 1 degree F of average warming?
Sorry for stating the bleeding obvious but:
1) If we place these 2 together (ie observed vs smoothed) there is arguably a 2 deg F average COOLING!
2) Where I live (and I suspect where most people live) the temp will vary more than this in a single day. . .in most places in less than 1 minute!
3) Why are we supposed to be alarmed by a perceived AVERAGED difference of 1 deg F?. . .who/what is being alarmingly threatened by this 1 deg F of AVERAGED warming???????
Debbie
Just commenting on your point 2).
Just checked Casino (NSW) and found the highest temp for today was 20.9C at 1:13pm. At 1:00pm it was 19.9C and at 1:30pm it was back to 17.9C.
So up 1.0C in 13 mins and down 3.0C in 17 mins.
Wind speed was almost the same and wind direction hadn’t changed.
Sun must have poked its head out for a few minutes.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60801/IDN60801.94573.shtml
Thanks Ian.
So was there evidence of ‘mass destruction’ in Casino today?
Up 1 & then down 3 in such a short time frame must be apocalyptic!
🙂
Newman gets a run at Watts.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/14/maurice-newman-aussie-pm-abbotts-most-senior-advisor-on-the-dangers-of-global-cooling/
Stephen Wilde explains why temperatures are sliding.
http://www.newclimatemodel.com/new-climate-model/
Debbie if tampering is going on, to hide the decline, then those responsible need to think about their future.
The plateau in world temperature cannot last forever, so the null hypothesis appears to be dramatic global cooling.
And the Fairfax bent on the Newman story.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/climate-change-measures-like-primitive-civilisations-offering-up-sacrifices-to-appease-the-gods-says-maurice-newman-20140814-3do0v.html
Nova is also running with it, as you would expect.
http://joannenova.com.au/2014/08/how-the-media-distort-the-news-lesson-1-lies-by-omission/
Debbie
Found this on BoM’s website.
‘There is some indication of a small (less than 0.2°C) increase in diurnal temperature range, most likely because of the faster response time of automatic probes relative to mercury-in-glass thermometers.’
When Sydney recorded its highest temp in Jan 2013, the temp went from 44.9C (at 2:49) to 45.8C (at 2:53) and then back to 44.8C by 2:59. Up 1.1C in 4 mins and then down a degree in 6 mins).
If they had faster response thermometers in 1939, would the recorded temp of 45.3C have been higher?
http://cawcr.gov.au/publications/technicalreports/CTR_049.pdf
Excellent question Ian.
It could have been higher. . .and we won’t ever know.
Whatever. . .it was effing bloody hot in 1939 and the differences between the effing bloody hot January 2013 and 1939, regardless of different technologies, is not significant.
The PR and media about the ‘angry summer’ and ‘hottest ever’ etc is nonsense.
As you have demonstrated above. . .the point remains that the variations in just a few minutes are far, far, far greater than the smoothed, averaged, homogenised etc GLOBAL annual variations that we are supposed to be extremely alarmed about and that is apparently spelling doom for the planet.
The climate/weather is simply not interested in co-operating!
I am starting to regularly laugh out loud at all these people who claim they are right and that they somehow possess some type of crystal ball ownership of the climate/weather!
They don’t!
We are all waiting for the forecasted rain this weekend. . .for anyone who has been watching. . .the predictions, including probabilities, have been altered on a number of occasions.
I think Prof Carter said it succinctly when he pointed out that we should be prepared for ‘weather’ and whatever comes.. .hot, cold, wet, dry, extreme. . .whatever.
Here we go again.
Casino today.
1:00pm – 19.3C
1:24pm – 21.7C (top temp for the day)
1:30pm – 20.3C
Suppose it can happen. Sensitive buggers, these new fangled autos.
Ian.
Yes the equipment is more sensitive .
We can now record variations in temps in the timeframes that you are highlighting above.
Anyone who is hand waving and alarmist about less than 1 degree of variation in the global averaging of temps is being excessively unrealistic about the real weather/climate/environment.
Another new Australian study links solar cycles to the earth’s temp trends.
http://www.thegwpf.org/new-paper-solar-cycles-linked-to-warming-pause/
Cold Air Outbreak
http://www.northqueenslandregister.com.au/news/agriculture/general/news/frosty-mornings-break-records/2707453.aspx?storypage=1
Latest Antarctic Sea Ice Extent
http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/2014/08/15/antarctic-sea-ice-extent-aug-15-2014-skyrocketing/
Arctic sea ice extent up, but no trend yet.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/arctic-sea-ice-area-highest-since-2004/
The cooling is consistent with the global warming crisis and was expected. Anyone doubting this is to turn themselves in to Minitruth for reprogramming immediately.