JULIA Gillard promised, if she was elected, that there would be no carbon tax. Tony Abbot promised, if he was elected, that he would scrap the carbon tax. But the learned ignorant promote mass action to get their way, all the while claiming tolerance, and respect for democracy. 
Many of the posters on display at the ‘March in March’ rallies today, in which tens of thousand gathered in Australia cities to boo capitalists and lament the lack of action on climate change, clearly showed the prejudices of the increasingly vocal, Australian inner city pseudo-intellectual.
As Carl Jung wrote in about 1957, “People go on blithely organizing and believing in the sovereign remedy of mass action, without the least consciousness of the fact that the most powerful organizations can be maintained only by the greatest ruthlessness of their leaders and the cheapest slogans.”
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Link to original photograph of poster with ‘step aside or be deposed’ from the Sydney Morning Herald http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tens-of-thousands-gather-for-march-in-march-protest-20140316-34v1x.html
Nick Cater’s book, entitled ‘The Lucky Culture: The Rise of an Australian Ruling Class’, gives great insight into the totems and prejudices of these self-labelled ‘progressives’.
Jennifer Marohasy BSc PhD is a critical thinker with expertise in the scientific method.
The “useful idiots” to quote comrade Linen.
I assume these are pictures from the Melbourne rally and are the real deal. You won’t find them in the press releases.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/barbarians_march_in_march/
Ah! the generation of the entitled. Our feral future.
These people are the scum of the earth to put it mildly. The clueless ABC and Fairfax couldn’t care less as long as it hurts the Coalition and Abbott.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/union_leader_calls_for_alan_joyce_to_be_shot_in_head_abc_goes_deaf_fairfax_/
I do wonder why these sort of protests (inner city pseudo intellectuals) attract so much MSM attention.
They talk in carefully crafted sound bites that they think makes them sound morally superior. They also falsely assume that only ‘they’ truly care about the future.
As some of those posters & Bolt’s piece indicates. . .that pseudo intellectual and pseudoscience veneer is very thin indeed.
Nick Cater’s ‘The Lucky Culture’ does seem to provide some answers.
Hi Ian
The above pic is from the Sydney Morning Herald… link at bottom of the post. I assumed Sydney.
Hi Debbie
Did they get much coverage on the ABC… not on the ABC website? What about TV news?
Amazing numbers of people at the rallies…. tens of thousands.
IMHO . . .That tens of thousands number lacks relevance and displays a bit of that ‘pseudo’.
What would it be as a % city habitat?
These people are totalitarian extremists full stop. They have no respect for facts or logic or reason or decency and other rallies called for Abbott to be killed just after the election in Sept last year.
An Abbott figure has also been beheaded at a recent rally. In the past some journos have tweeted that Brendan Nelson should be glassed. One even posed the question ” why didn’t someone glass the c–t?”
Another prominent left female journo mused that a 12 year old Bindy Irwin should lose her virginity. ( but in crude terms)
I see they’ve also called for more action to fight CC, but they ignore all the recent science and info that would expose all of their stupid nonsense.
Simple maths, the EU plus the RS and NAS have proved that there is zip humans can do to change the climate for thousands of years, but these clueless fools would rather display their ignorance than face reality.
Elections and laws only count when this sort gets their way.
I hope Australia stands firm and completely dismantles the infrastructure of the AGW/big green movement.
Perhaps a nice audit/investigation and public report on how they operate, what they cost and what they return to society would be a good step?
Another brainless message about the unpopularity of Tony Abbott from the barking mad left.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/south_australia_gets_the_labor_win_it_didnt_deserve_or_want/#commentsmore
The Liberal party recieved 53% of the vote in SA election yet this is used as a rejection of Abbott’s coalition govt. They are as mad as hatters.
More signs of the Abbott Govts unpopularity, NOT. On sat the Liberals received about 51% of first preference votes in Tassie election. Of course with preferences or 2pp this vote will be much higher.
http://www.tec.tas.gov.au/StateElection/Results_Bass.html
Further to my comment at 8:50.
The rally did not get much coverage past one day.
More people in Melbourne regularly attend a sporting event such as an AFL game. . . hence my question about the relevance of the tens of thousands that was reported in the MSM.
The MSM reported the numbers at this rally just like they report an estimate of attendance at a football game. . .and similarly. . . has lost interest after the ‘event’. . .because the ‘event’ is over.
As Jen pointed out in her post above. . .there was nothing secret or ‘cloak and dagger’ about the Coalition’s policy position on the Carbon Tax.
Australian voters were in absolutely no doubt about the Coalition’s intention to dismantle the tax and. . . as Hunter points out. . . to dismantle the departmental infrastructure that has been built up around it.
Gillard did definitely promise “there will be no carbon tax …..”
At this point I think the Coalition Government is on probably on probation with the Australian electorate re this particular issue.
It was certainly given a mandate which is FAAAAaaaaaarrrrr larger and FAAaaaarrrr more important than the reported numbers at the ‘event’ yesterday.
Its easy to make a relatively small group of ‘rent a crowd’ protesters look like a mass rally at that location in Melbourne. Does anyone have any idea how many actually attended?
Debbie and all, lets reflect a moment on the ~300 that turned up for the ‘national’ 2011 convoy of no confidence rally at parliament house headed by Allan Jones.
The point being, it is easy to criticise alternative view points if your opposing view point is very strong or significantly biased.
Marc what is your point? The Bolter asks “is the shadow Attorney General a liar or just a fool?” http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/is_mark_dreyfus_a_liar_or_just_a_fool/#commentsmore
If people want to protest let them but from what I saw there didn’t seem to be any valid reason to protest,oh they can many different reasons,but what were they really up in arms about…Save The Planet/Environment/Reef/Whales/Trees – from what!…Get rid of Abbott – Why!….Let in the Asylum Seekers…Well yes but who can tell what an asylum seeker from an illegal immigrant,and who is going to pay for them.
They really aren’t protesting,all they are doing is asking pointless questions.
What I do find strange is this “thing” with Tony Abbott,they mangae to imagine all sorts of evils and the attribute them to Tony,when in reality is a lovely church going family man and citizen whereas the last lot of ALP leaders have included serial adulterers/esses and one horrid self absorbed individual though to give him credit he was one of the very few ALP members to not cheat on his wife.
I would be going out on a limb and say that it is highly likely that the majority of the adult members of those crowds would be REGULAR drug users,I should know my son was one of the Melbourne rabble,and for him and his friends a dose of reality(in their minds) would be dropping Acid( LSD),and that friends is most probably why the leftists can find so many evils to Conservatives,the silly sods spend far to much time in an altered reality care of drugs..
Another kill Abbott sign used in the rally and in the background another F–K Tony Abbott sign.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxlieberman/13188103183/sizes/l/ Just imagine if signs to kill or f–k Gillard were used in the Canberra rally. W’ed still be hearing about it from their ABC and their Fairfax etc. And they would be correct, so why not a condemnation when Abbott’s name is used instead?
BTW they were thrilled that they sold out of F–k Tony Abbott shirts at yesterday’s rallies. Just gives an idea of the quality of nutter we’re dealing with.
The disaffected left and our progressive betters march and decry the duly elected Abbott government and viley besmirch Abbott, a decent man.
All at the same time as the left and the progressives are getting electorally smashed in Tassie and only winning in SA due to the worst gerrymander since Bjelke was around.
No wonder the left don’t like democracy.
The ABC is so dumb and amoral it wouldn’t even apologize for the Chris Kenny dog f—ker skit used on the chaser.
Kenny’s greatest sin was he was a conservative journo and was telling the truth with evidence about their ABC’s left wing bias in support of Labor and the greens. IOW if you tell the truth this is the way they treat you.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s3958586.htm
The WA Senate 2014 group voting tickets are now available at the WAEC site. Election is on 5th of April.
http://www.aec.gov.au/wa-senate/gvt.htm Good to see Cohers mob ( Freedom and Prosperity party ) putting the Libs ahead of Labor. Labor 54 to 57 and Libs 50 to 53. PUP has also put the Libs before Labor.
Marc,
My point remains that the Coalition Government has a very clear and CURRENT mandate to dismantle the carbon tax and the departmental infrastructure that was built around it.
A rally over 2 years ago or a rally yesterday does not change that rather obvious fact.
It is also no secret that Julia Gillard clearly stated in the 2010 campaign: “There will be no carbon tax…”
I have always encouraged alternative viewpoints and I think that we are more fortunate than most in our Australian democracy that it is possible for people to express their views.. .including in rallies.
However. . .I actively dislike sneering personal attacks, carefully crafted & emotional sound bites and straight out propaganda no matter which ‘side’ of politics they come from.
I no more liked the ugly posters of Gillard that were waved around in the convoy rally that you mention than I liked the posters of Abbot that were waved around in the rally yesterday.
That behaviour is counter productive IMHO.
I also think the MSM reporting rallies like some sort of sporting event is counter productive to whichever cause or viewpoint.
I made the mistake of leaving on Channel Nine after the footy yesterday. The headlines were all about frustration and defeat for Tony Abbott and that theme was developed through the head of the news. Extraordinary stuff. We’re not talking Fairfax, ABC or Guardian here. It was Channel Nine on a Sunday arvo, post Rugby League carnage. What is in their minds? Are they all expecting the eclipse of old media and lobbying for safe gigs on the ABC?
While I regard the types demonstrating as the usual beige people trying to find some colour, I don’t mind the demos themselves. Freedom and all that. What I don’t understand is the Herd of Independent Minds who infest every level of the media and are prepared to say anything at all and obscure anything at all when it suits. Journalism may not be the loftiest of crafts, but surely it needs a standard of reportage a bit higher than that of the average bar fly. And that’s possibly being unfair to bar flies.
I see that PUP has reversed the order for the Greens candidates in the WA senate and put Ludlum last on their Greens selection. Clive can’t be happy with Scott it seems. But ya gotta have a laugh at em.
I suspect that the inner city pseudo-intellectuals (which may be over represented as latte drinkers) probably have little idea of the realities outside of town. As I understand it “the bush” makes up a substantial part of Australia and it is important to sustain it, (in order to supply food and stuff to the city folk)
The brilliant Mark Steyn supporting Andrew Bolt before his trial about a year ago. I think this is very relevant here at this time.
Marc the convoy of no confidence rally was organised by very unhappy members of farming communities from across Australia. Most had traveled a very long way to protest. Alan Jones did not head it he was an invited speaker amongst many. There are not many these days in rural areas that is the reality even so they should not be ignored and abused by the left. Every one of them went back to their communities to tell them that Labor did not care.
I once was of the left then progressive meant you were a friend of a foreign power or ideology. It has not changed it seems.
Bob _FJ,
I think that the majority of Australians are connected to small business and small businesses (which includes farmers) run their own businesses & like to mind their own business. They have their say at election time & generally prefer to avoid the rest of the stuff.
I believe that small business is still the largest employer in Australia (it was the last time I checked).?
But I do agree that unfortunately. . . very unfortunately. . . the inner city pseudo-intellectuals have little clue about the demographics and logistics that supports their lifestyles and allows them to be ‘inner city pseudo-intellectuals’.
In my limited experience, intolerance and incitement to violence, which Bolt mentioned in his column, are part and parcel of Progressivism these days. Inner city pseudo-intellectuals have conned themselves into believing that they are tolerant in general, because they’re not racists, and because they’re 100% acceptancing of gays and Lesbians. Of course, both types of Politically Correct tolerance are good, but by themselves, they’re not sufficient conditions for being a decent human being.
Progressive intolerance is not just an Australian problem. The attitudes of Warmies in several other ‘Western’ countries are every bit as ugly as those of the Labour goons in Australia. This latest incident is yet another ‘true colors’ moment. Just what we’ve always needed: born-again Bolsheviks.
I was so relieved when I realised the seemlinly endless amount of right wing dribble in these comments was coming from one person. Neville, the fact that all you seem to do is comment on blogs yet grant yourself a sense of superiority speaks volumes. You call left wing people nutters? We have much worse words for old fools like yourself.
“These people are totalitarian extremists full stop. They have no respect for facts or logic or reason or decency”
You are a joke. You are a mindless drone who has most likely lived the greediest of lives, you now delude yourself daily and rather than grow internally you lash out externally. You are the scum of the earth not because of your views, you are entitled to think what ever you want, but to definitively call left wing protesters “Totalitarian extremists” is just barking mad. To believe it is delusion. To argue it is disgustingly insane. I’m going to take a gander and say you’re an unmarried baby boomer, you probably blame women, trust me its entirely who you are that’s the problem.
Someone asked Trioli on ABC Breakfast on Mon morning why there was no coverage of ‘March to March’ on the show. Lame excuse from Virginia re only showing very current news in the morning and it had already been shown on yesterday’s news).
Maybe some sanity shown by the ABC (or they didn’t want to show the ‘shocking’ photos and then be accused of not showing them).
Geeezzzz how do you respond to such Tom-foolery. I suppose I’ll just stick to the facts and not delusional lefty ramblings.
It’s very serious if a union leader or thug stands up at a rally and threatens Alan Joyce ( Quantas CEO) and tells a cheering crowd that he should be shot in the back of the head.
It’s very serious when some of our journos speak in the vilest way about glassing a former opposition leader.Don’t forget this poor bloke was just an opposition leader at that time. And it has to be said that Brendan Nelson is a very decent Aussie.
It’s very serious when anyone even privately suggests that our PM should be executed. But these vile thugs show his mock murder and decapitation at a number of rallies.
It very serious when their ABC targets conservatives with the filthiest satire and refuse to issue an apology. This will now go to court.
It’s very serious when their ABC allows a panelist to lie on air about Andrew Bolt calling him a racist and extreme bully. She has since apologized and their ABC has overnight issued an apology of sorts to Bolt as well. Andrew Bolt would be the last person on the planet that anyone could accuse of racist instincts.
What I don’t understand is why wasn’t this union leader and thug charged for suggesting one of our leading CEOS should be shot in the back of the head? I mean, what does it take for the police to take action?
BTW Tom-fool I couldn’t care less what you think of me. And yes I’m sure you could think up more vile stupid things to say about me but I really don’t care. You see I hate totalitarianism and vile extremism and will call it out whenever I see it.
More insanity from the barking mad extremists. If they want to reduce co2 emissions why not just change to gas fired power stns?
http://judithcurry.com/2014/03/16/bonfire-of-insanity/#more-14923
Tom,
Thanks for demonstrating the original point In Jen’s post and also in Nick Cater’s book “The Lucky Culture”. . .possibly inadvertently?
Here:
“The prejudices of the increasingly vocal, Australian inner city pseudo-intellectual.”
I’m wondering if you might care to look at this comment of yours in light of that?
Here:
“I’m going to take a gander and say you’re an unmarried baby boomer, you probably blame women, trust me its entirely who you are that’s the problem.”
Freedom of the press is one of the foundations of a free democratic society. But now we find that Michael Mann has found himself in an even bigger mess because he opposes that freedom.
Even lefty media groups are after him to provide his emails and the list is long. Good for them and good for the US taxpayer.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/17/wow-even-msm-reporters-want-to-see-michael-manns-uva-emails-now/#more-105454
Looks like climate sensitivity is dropping and so is relative humidity. Any excess heat in the system is lost to space.
http://notrickszone.com/2014/03/17/earths-surface-temperature-regulated-by-natural-heat-dissipation-mechanisms-in-the-atmosphere/
Neville @1:55 pm
Neville, indeed an appropriate word as coined at WUWT is:
WOW!
Debbie @ 4:36 pm
I’m wondering if you may have explored the origins of that font of wisdom the MDBA.
Would you know if its members are inclined to individually sup either café cappuccino or café latte?
Good question Bob_FJ.
🙂 🙂
Easy to answer.
Yep!
A very good column from Prof Don Aitkin about the undemocractic nature of recent arguments from the extreme CAGW advocates. He also has a link to his column about Bernie Fraser.
http://donaitkin.com/as-warming-slows-denunciation-grows/
The Bolter sums up the left wing ferals and their totalitarian extremism at the recent rallies.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/barbarity-should-appal-us-or-we-are-in-trouble/story-fni0ffxg-1226859497591
It looks like we could be having a real debate about saturated fats in our diet thanks to a new study that can’t find a connection with heart disease etc.
This was settled science for at least 35 years . This is similar to the settled science in connection with the cause of stomach ulcers. But when the young scientists from W OZ first released their findings they suffered abuse from some scientists and doctors etc but they won the debate through careful ( self ) testing after a number of years. This was also settled science, but for at least 60 years.
Does this remind us of anything?
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_science_is_settled_fat_chance/
It reminds me of 3 things Nev.
Analogies are a useless argument.
Most science is settled so exceptions are useless ( bit repetitive, I know)
There is no science of subsystems. Health science like climate science demands a holistic approach – it is useless looking at single factors.
Game over Nev, even exxon has folded. Why don’t you go outside and get some exercise.
Comment from: bazza March 21st, 2014 at 11:07 am
“Most science is settled so exceptions are useless ( bit repetitive, I know)”
Still living in the 19th Century, are we? ‘Settled science’ is an oxymoron. Science that has ossified over time, and which does not take new findings into account, no longer qualifies as science; instead it has mutated into secular religion. Ditto for phony doomsday prophesies that are based upon massively diddled ‘data’. I recommend that you have a stiff drink before reading this Feynman quote:
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”
Does any knowledgeable person doubt which side of the CAGW ‘debate’ Feynman would favour if he had defeated the Big C, and was still with us today? Can you say, “Cargo Cult Science?”
Analysis of a scientific issue is NOT about trotting out one’s favourite maven (as most inner-city pseudo-intellectuals believe) — not even Feynman — and then saying, “Gotcha!” It’s about what the current data are telling us. And that data has thoroughly falsfied the CAGW secular religion. Here’s a current meme:
“If you can’t explain The Pause, then you don’t understand the cause.”
Get over it, and get a life.
what pause, Larry? Get up with it, go write your second paper and cut back on the tea parties.
Comment from: bazza March 21st, 2014 at 2:54 pm
“what pause, Larry?”
The pesky data from UAH and other sources show a period of at least 15 years of a ZERO warming trend. (Others, like Christopher Monckton, put the figure at 17.5 years.) This inconvenient truth has generated a schism within the Warmist faithful. Some, like Kevin Trenberth, are covering their arses, and pretending that the ‘missing heat’ is somehow hiding out at the bottom of the ocean.
How did it get there in the first place? And how on Earth did Trenberth and Susan Solomon ever survive P-chem?
Other goobermint-funded Warmist ‘scientists’ are continuing the Big Lie.
I’m guessing that some of them are planning to retire before they become laughingstocks. They may also be hoping that timely retirements will allow statutes of limitations for fraud to expire.
Cohenite, what are your your thoughts on this legal aspect?
Bazza,
Even the ‘mainstream’ is recognising a ‘pause’ or a ‘hiatus’ or I have even seen it termed as ‘a transient slowdown of surface warming’.
The real issue is of course the causal link or correlation with human CO2 emissions that underpin the projections in climate modelling. For the last 10 to 15+ yrears. . .
The climate doesn’t seem to be cooperating with the much touted trends.
“There will be no carbon tax” from Julia.
But somehow it magically appeared.
Rudd promised to remove it but lost, and couldn’t.
Abbott promised to remove it and won, but couldn’t.
Now, amazingly, Labor needs a carbon tax that will destroy more jobs unnecessarily when ACO2CGW is in ever-increasing doubt with 17 years of cooling:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1997/trend/plot/esrl-co2/from:1997/normalise:0.5/scale:0.5/offset:0.34
Comment from: Neville March 21st, 2014 at 6:09 am
“It looks like we could be having a real debate about saturated fats in our diet thanks to a new study that can’t find a connection with heart disease etc.”
Speaking of saturated fats . . . Whadayaknow? I wrote about this very topic a few years ago, and updated it in March of 2013. It turns out that goobermint-funded health ‘authorities’ are not particularly honest. Shades of AGW. Here are the opening lines:
“We Americans love our heroes, and we love to hate our villains. Health authorities are all too happy to cater to these tastes. Willy-nilly, the legend of the Saturated Fat Monster has gained a cult following, rivaling that of Darth Vader himself.”
Read the rest of the long, boring article here.
http://larryfields.hubpages.com/hub/The-Saturated-Fat-Monster
Bazza I exercise every day because I have to as part of survival, but I now enjoy it very much. But bazza must be the only bloke on the planet who doesn’t understand there has been a pause.
BTW here’s more evidence about the Labor/ union thugs idea of corrupt democracy at work. Even a Labor premier wasn’t immune from this bloke’s threats. Hurry up the royal commission into their thuggery please.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/gillards_then_boyfriend_accused_of_fraud_threatened_wa_premier/#commentsmore