HOW much do you really know about IPCC Chief Rajendra Pachauri and melting Himalaya Glaciers?
‘The Fiction World of Rajendra Pachauri’ by Tony Thomas is an easy to read, informative and insightful piece of investigative journalism available here:
http://www.quadrant.org.au/magazine/issue/2012/3/the-fictive-world-of-rajendra-pachauri
It includes comment that:
“The IPCC’s Himalaya forecast was based on nothing more than speculation by an Indian scientist, Syed Hasnain, in an Indian eco-magazine in April 1999, recycled into the New Scientist and then into a report in 2005 by the activist group WWF. The grey-lit WWF report was then cited in the IPCC’s draft glacier chapter in 2007…
Six IPCC experts reviewed the draft chapter and none saw anything odd. Twelve reviewers looked at it again in second draft. One of them (from Hebron University) said caustically that two elements in the forecast contradicted each other. Another, (from Newcastle University in the UK) told the authors to look up certain contrary references that cited glacier expansion (the IPCC authors’ brief is to assess the full range of scientific views on a topic). The reviewers’ comments were ignored. None of the total eighteen reviewers found anything untoward about the lone WWF citation for the dramatic forecast…
Later, the second draft was taken up and run in the all-important Summary for Policy Makers. The draft summary was reviewed line-by-line by 190 government representatives (if the politicians’ changes clash with the science sections, the science sections are altered retrospectively). Only one commented, hitting the bullseye: “This is a very drastic conclusion. Should have a supporting reference otherwise should be deleted (Government of India).”
Even then, IPCC rigour was not to be seen. The summary was watered down, leaving untouched the howlers in the source text.”
spangled drongo says
Pachauri is another Peter Gleick hypocrite. The “Cause” must prevail, no matter how much lying and deceit it takes.
spangled drongo says
He is well chosen for the job of shifting money “from the poor in rich countries to the rich in poor ones”.
spangled drongo says
Ya gotta hand it to him though, he takes a lotta getting rid of:
http://www.the-rathouse.com/2012/IPCC.html
spangled drongo says
Makes you wonder what influence the SOI has on rainfall when it is about zero:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/monitoring/soi30.png
And on temperatures too:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_February_2012.png
toby says
We should be so proud of the IPCC….they embody all that is noble and good and none so well as pachauri. Seriously youd have to be embarrassed to be defending this mob wouldnt you?
spangled drongo says
Luke thinks they’re spot on toby.
But then Luke is a bit like the blues singer in this story:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/why-we-should-act-to-stop-global-warming-and-why-we-wont/253752/
Derek Smith says
Hi guys, sorry to be so OT but you simply have to read this from WUWT;
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/02/why-cagw-theory-is-not-settled-science/
And Luke, before you get your knickers in a knot, read Dr. Brown’s response to a comment about PV’s at 10.13 a.m., I think there is a strong reality check for all of us there.
Cheers, Derek.
spangled drongo says
Very good Derek and it’s not OT:
“but we can start with shit-canning the IPCC and the entire complex arrangement of “remedies” to a problem that may well be completely ignorable and utterly destined to take care of itself long before it ever becomes a real problem.”
That’s exactly what we are on about.
James Mayeau says
“This is a very drastic conclusion. Should have a supporting reference otherwise should be deleted.”
I can’t believe these people get away with questioning the Himalayan conclusions. Who are these upstarts, the Government of India? Who do they represent? Probably funded with “big oil” money. And pontificating about the Himalyas – as if they know anything! They aren’t even climate scientists!
Jennifer Marohasy says
Can those posting comment try to focus on the subject at hand. I deleted the first comment on this thread because it was more about ‘Luke’ than ‘Pachuari’. I come back 24 hours later and there is more comment about Luke! Ahh. There is no mention of Luke in the blog post and he is mostly irrelevant in the scheme of things. OK. Correction. What he represents is not irrelevant. But if you want to comment on ‘Luke’ as representative of the mainstream view then explain as much and try and provide us with some new insight and/or solution.
spangled drongo says
Jen, whilst Luke has a similar philosophy to Pachauri, I’ll bet he is not as handsome,
or as young,
or as libertarian,
or as sceptical!
But is otherwise representative of mainstream hockeyteam:
http://www.physicstoday.org/resource/1/phtoad/v65/i2/p22_s1?bypassSSO=1
Neville says
Thanks Jennifer now I know why my comment was deleted. But I’m sure it wasn’t more about Luke than Pachauri.
Btw I’ve always gone out of my way to try and provide some new insight or solution. Then guess who doesn’t like it the most and gets all personal, swearing etc?
Whether we are commenting about Pachauri’s stupid ideas in this post or the stupidity of OZ trying to mitigate agw there is one abiding fact to consider, there is zero we can achieve by wasting billions $ down the plug hole every year for decades to come.
Remember the Gillard govt won’t even accept this basic fact and will display their hostility by abusing the messenger every time.
Another fact is the Gillard govt couldn’t care less about increasing emissions of co2. The only concern they have is to stop Aussies using a piffling tonnage per year and enjoying cheaper reliable energy for industry and jobs.
In the Quadrant story Pachauri honestly states that his main target is to redistribute wealth from developed countries to the developing countries.
This has zero to do with science ( can’t even pass a simple maths test) but everything to do with envy and leftwing politics.
Robert says
Pachauri’s notorious trip back to India from NY by luxury private jet was not to play cricket. It was just to attend cricket practice.
Okay, okay…he did fly back again for the game. But did all those carping skeptics expect him to let his team down?
The climate elite really are like Renaissance popes or like the Perons. They dazzle with wealth and waste while appealing to the victim mentality. Amazingly, it works.
MostlyHarmless says
Like Pachauri, there are many reports and scientific papers I might denounce as “voodoo science”. Unlike Pachauri, I would never do so without at least having read them first. It’s clear to me that he never read the Indian government report he denounced out of hand. The overall findings of that report have now been confirmed by the Colorado land ice study, which found ice loss from Himalayan glaciers to be an order of magnitude lower than estimates extrapolated from a few tens of melting glaciers.
The WWF source of the ridiculous IPCC glacier section is here:
http://assets.panda.org/downloads/himalayaglaciersreport2005.pdf
..and the careful analysis by Indian glaciologists, the “voodoo science” is here:
http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in/files/MoEDiscussionPaper.pdf
It’s clear to me Pachauri shares many character traits with another passionate “climate crusader”, one Peter Gleick.
hunter says
From Hansen’s Venusian doom scenarios to the IPCC fictionalizination of climate data to “hidd the decline”, to adjsutments of historical records to enhance current claims, to ignoring failed predictions, to the now “fake-but-true defense of Gleick, AGW seems built on a great deal of fiction in general.
Schiller Thurkettle says
The author of this article doesn’t miss a beat. Reading the whole thing is well worth the time. The widespread use of ‘grey literature’ by the IPCC is noted, along with non-degreed Greenpeacers providing ‘scientific’ documents and then reviewing them; ignoring the recommendations of actual scientists; telling whoppers to judges and legislatures; you name it. I especially liked Pachauri’s admission that climate science played a secondary role in the campaign to change the structure of world trade and governance.
spangled drongo says
OTOH, our Raj could simply be misunderstood:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/cif-green/2010/jan/04/climate-change-delay-denial?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
Yeah, right.
Robert says
SD, the Guardian reads more and more like an Onion satire of the Guardian.
“My institute, The Energy and Resources Institute (TERI), has no links with the Tata group, other than having been established through seed funding from that group…”
jennifer says
Neville,
Thanks for being forgiving.
hunter says
This is a good point to mention Donna Laframboise, the Canadian journalist, who after extensive research put together a well referenced expose of IPCC failure to follow even minimal levels of professional procedures and policies.
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/my-book/
Her blog has a current post on Pachurai based on the recent Australian work:
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/