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	<title>Comments on: White Bark Pine Trees (Part 2): A Note from James Mayeau</title>
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		<title>By: Northern Sierra Trees Falsify Claim of &#8216;Unprecedented&#8217; Global Warming &#171; Watts Up With That?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Northern Sierra Trees Falsify Claim of &#8216;Unprecedented&#8217; Global Warming &#171; Watts Up With That?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] account of our exploits on that day, in a second guest-posting at Jennifer&#8217;s blog. http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/white-bark-pine-trees-part-2-a-note-from-james-mayeau/ This blog post includes a link to more of James&#8217; photos from Round Top [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] account of our exploits on that day, in a second guest-posting at Jennifer&#8217;s blog. <a href="http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/white-bark-pine-trees-part-2-a-note-from-james-mayeau/" rel="nofollow">http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/white-bark-pine-trees-part-2-a-note-from-james-mayeau/</a> This blog post includes a link to more of James&#8217; photos from Round Top [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Fields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, 
I agree, Michael hit a home run. Barry&#039;s article was pretty good too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
I agree, Michael hit a home run. Barry&#8217;s article was pretty good too.</p>
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		<title>By: James Mayeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Mayeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, I don&#039;t think we gave AL nearly as much heartburn as Mike Hammer just did.

John Pittman, you try the search engine? Jen is pretty good about labeling. Try oil spill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, I don&#8217;t think we gave AL nearly as much heartburn as Mike Hammer just did.</p>
<p>John Pittman, you try the search engine? Jen is pretty good about labeling. Try oil spill.</p>
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		<title>By: John F. Pittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>John F. Pittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT

There is this youtube purporting to be a interveiw between a newsie and a politico about the end of a boat falling off and an oil spill. I beleive Jennifer had it on here one time.

My question is, was that a spoof interveiw or was it real? Thanks in advance. They are using it as &quot;how not to do an interveiw&quot; in environmental safety at my daughter&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT</p>
<p>There is this youtube purporting to be a interveiw between a newsie and a politico about the end of a boat falling off and an oil spill. I beleive Jennifer had it on here one time.</p>
<p>My question is, was that a spoof interveiw or was it real? Thanks in advance. They are using it as &#8220;how not to do an interveiw&#8221; in environmental safety at my daughter&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: James Mayeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Mayeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr Pike.  

Here&#039;s a better view of Larry standing on the ice. 
http://picasaweb.google.com/JamesMayeau/RoundTopLake2#5376431512716974722

Can you see him? He&#039;s that little fella standing way up at the top. 
It was a fun trip. The lake temperature was 64 degrees and ambient air temp was 74. Sorry I never have gotten the hang of converting the feets and meters. 

I have to agree with Grandma Hissink. It was a mild shock to find snow on the mountain this late in the summer.  I&#039;ll never bother with the stuff in winter again. It&#039;s much more agreeable walking around in it without a jacket and mittens.

Louis - mini Z pinch?  

Isn&#039;t that what you do to check if someone is awake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr Pike.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a better view of Larry standing on the ice.<br />
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/JamesMayeau/RoundTopLake2#5376431512716974722" rel="nofollow">http://picasaweb.google.com/JamesMayeau/RoundTopLake2#5376431512716974722</a></p>
<p>Can you see him? He&#8217;s that little fella standing way up at the top.<br />
It was a fun trip. The lake temperature was 64 degrees and ambient air temp was 74. Sorry I never have gotten the hang of converting the feets and meters. </p>
<p>I have to agree with Grandma Hissink. It was a mild shock to find snow on the mountain this late in the summer.  I&#8217;ll never bother with the stuff in winter again. It&#8217;s much more agreeable walking around in it without a jacket and mittens.</p>
<p>Louis &#8211; mini Z pinch?  </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that what you do to check if someone is awake?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Larry and James, 
                             Really appreciated your hiking story of the high Sierras, as it brought back wonderful memories of the trully spiritual awe my wife and I experienced during a trip through Yosemity National Park a few years ago.
We also went and did the walk around Round Top Lake.
Whenever I am in that area or the Rockies, I am struck by the total contrast between those environments and the older mountain environment of Australia. Yet marvel at the similarity of experience of magesty and spirituallity.
Somehow nearer my God to thee.
Agree about the Glacierettes.
Pikey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Larry and James,<br />
                             Really appreciated your hiking story of the high Sierras, as it brought back wonderful memories of the trully spiritual awe my wife and I experienced during a trip through Yosemity National Park a few years ago.<br />
We also went and did the walk around Round Top Lake.<br />
Whenever I am in that area or the Rockies, I am struck by the total contrast between those environments and the older mountain environment of Australia. Yet marvel at the similarity of experience of magesty and spirituallity.<br />
Somehow nearer my God to thee.<br />
Agree about the Glacierettes.<br />
Pikey.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Fields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spangled, 
I don&#039;t usually see much wildlife up there. Of the birds, there are supposed to be Clark&#039;s Nutcrackers, but I wouldn&#039;t recognize one if it bit me. There are also marmots, aka woodchucks and groundhogs. They&#039;re fat 10-kg rodents that make homes for themselves in rock piles. There are undoubtedly migratory deer as well. 

To compensate for the slim pickens in wildlife, the Carson Pass area has some of the most spectacular wildflower displays in all of the Northern Sierras. You can see them in all of their splendor from July through early August.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spangled,<br />
I don&#8217;t usually see much wildlife up there. Of the birds, there are supposed to be Clark&#8217;s Nutcrackers, but I wouldn&#8217;t recognize one if it bit me. There are also marmots, aka woodchucks and groundhogs. They&#8217;re fat 10-kg rodents that make homes for themselves in rock piles. There are undoubtedly migratory deer as well. </p>
<p>To compensate for the slim pickens in wildlife, the Carson Pass area has some of the most spectacular wildflower displays in all of the Northern Sierras. You can see them in all of their splendor from July through early August.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Hissink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Hissink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

Considering everything, that was really good.  I remember when I was a callow youth spending Christmas holidays at Thredbo (1956-1964) with the family in the Snowy Mountains. Three families were involved, (all Dutch immigrants after WWII), and tradition was that we would leave Thredbo (Mothers and children) and climb Mount Crackenback and hike to Mt Kosiusku. One of the fathers would be delegated to drive from Thredbo via Jindabyne to Mt Kos to pick up the mothers and drive them home.  We children would then hike back to Thredbo, and either hike down Mt Crackenback or take the ski lift down.

Mt Kos then always had snow on it, and in the middle of summer!  I still recall my paternal grandparents visting from Holland and disbelieving that we had snow in summer. My father sampled some of the snow and kept it in a thermos flask to show his parents.

In those times you could drive to the top of Mt Kos. These days the Eco-police force you to walk, and hence anyone who can&#039;t walk the distance can&#039;t experience being on top of Australia&#039;s highest hill. (It&#039;s not a mountain like the Rockies).

What interests me these days is working out what causes ice to precipitate in these places - temperature because of high altitude, or are other factors in play, factors of the electrical kind.

Consider hailstones for example - how are they formed in the atmosphere? I can&#039;t accept that they are suspended overhead waiting for an opportune moment to descend.  I wonder if they are the result of some hitherto unexplained plasma effect of electric currents passing through water saturated atmosphere causing mini-Z-Pinch effects.  If so, then how would one design an experiment to test this.

Enough of personal memories, great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>Considering everything, that was really good.  I remember when I was a callow youth spending Christmas holidays at Thredbo (1956-1964) with the family in the Snowy Mountains. Three families were involved, (all Dutch immigrants after WWII), and tradition was that we would leave Thredbo (Mothers and children) and climb Mount Crackenback and hike to Mt Kosiusku. One of the fathers would be delegated to drive from Thredbo via Jindabyne to Mt Kos to pick up the mothers and drive them home.  We children would then hike back to Thredbo, and either hike down Mt Crackenback or take the ski lift down.</p>
<p>Mt Kos then always had snow on it, and in the middle of summer!  I still recall my paternal grandparents visting from Holland and disbelieving that we had snow in summer. My father sampled some of the snow and kept it in a thermos flask to show his parents.</p>
<p>In those times you could drive to the top of Mt Kos. These days the Eco-police force you to walk, and hence anyone who can&#8217;t walk the distance can&#8217;t experience being on top of Australia&#8217;s highest hill. (It&#8217;s not a mountain like the Rockies).</p>
<p>What interests me these days is working out what causes ice to precipitate in these places &#8211; temperature because of high altitude, or are other factors in play, factors of the electrical kind.</p>
<p>Consider hailstones for example &#8211; how are they formed in the atmosphere? I can&#8217;t accept that they are suspended overhead waiting for an opportune moment to descend.  I wonder if they are the result of some hitherto unexplained plasma effect of electric currents passing through water saturated atmosphere causing mini-Z-Pinch effects.  If so, then how would one design an experiment to test this.</p>
<p>Enough of personal memories, great post!</p>
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		<title>By: spangled drongo</title>
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		<dc:creator>spangled drongo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James and Larry,
Looks like beautiful country and weather for hiking. Much wildlife up there?
The way those White Bark Pines grow looks similar to the Antarctic Beech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James and Larry,<br />
Looks like beautiful country and weather for hiking. Much wildlife up there?<br />
The way those White Bark Pines grow looks similar to the Antarctic Beech.</p>
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		<title>By: James Mayeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Mayeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t believe a word Larry says. 

I saw GLACIERS! 

How could it be snow? It wasn&#039;t even cold out.  

Glaciers - G_L_A_C_I_E_R_S_!


Alright - they were glacierettes. 

BUT that&#039;s as far as I&#039;ll go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t believe a word Larry says. </p>
<p>I saw GLACIERS! </p>
<p>How could it be snow? It wasn&#8217;t even cold out.  </p>
<p>Glaciers &#8211; G_L_A_C_I_E_R_S_!</p>
<p>Alright &#8211; they were glacierettes. </p>
<p>BUT that&#8217;s as far as I&#8217;ll go.</p>
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