US ‘Cap n Trade’ Carbon Act Passes First Major Hurdle
Posted by jennifer, June 27th, 2009 - under News, Opinion.
Tags: Climate & Climate Change
YESTERDAY President Barrack Obama praised the House of Representatives for its “Historic action with the passage of the American Clean Energy and Security Act … It’s a bold and necessary step that holds the promise of creating new industries and millions of new jobs, decreasing our dangerous dependence on foreign oil… Now it’s up to the Senate to take the next step.”
According to Grist Online, environment groups are working to secure improvements in the Senate.
Senator Barbara Boxer, chair of the Environment and Public Works Committee, has commented “This bill gives us the momentum we need in the Senate, and signals that when we promised change for the better in America, we meant it.”
The bill was passed by just one vote more than the simple majority of 218 needed. Forty-four Democrats voted against it, according to Grist Online, “the vast majority representing Midwestern, Southern, coal-producing, and industrial states”.
So it seems Australia and the US are about on par when it comes to cap and trade legislation – it’s through the House of Representatives and still to be passed by the Senate.
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Notes and Links
http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-26-climate-bill-senate-politics
http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-26-does-cap-trade-really-work
http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-26-reax-house-climate-bill-vote/
http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1697/Climate-Depot-Editorial-Climate-Bills-Passage-Represents-nothing-more-than-unrestrained-exercise-of-raw-political-power-armtwisting-and-intimidation
As an individual service to you, you blog swilling illiterate moron.
(1) ocean temps are still up –
Levitus, S., J. I.
Antonov, T. P. Boyer, R. A. Locarnini, H. E. Garcia, and A. V.
Mishonov (2009), Global ocean heat content 1955–2008 in light of
recently revealed instrumentation problems, Geophys. Res. Lett., 36,
L07608, doi:10.1029/2008GL037155.
(2) Is it warming or cooling
Easterling, D. R., and M. F. Wehner (2009), Is the
climate warming or cooling?, Geophys. Res. Lett., 36, L08706,
doi:10.1029/2009GL037810.
(3) PDO – what indulgent horseshit. It’s a local second order effect.
Parker, D., C. Folland, A. Scaife, J. Knight, A. Colman, P. Baines, and B. Dong (2007), Decadal to multidecadal variability and the climate change background, J. Geophys. Res., 112, D18115, doi:10.1029/2007JD008411.
(4) Ice cores – are you mental – of course that’s what you’d see – try the PETM instead
Don’t just breeze in here like some Johnny come lately and assume that you know anything at all. Learn to read first. Now piss off you post-modernist tool.
Clearly Luke is beyond help. He has resorted to quoting Scripture — all of which I presented briefly; the articles he cites are simply expatiations on the summary sentences in my post, saving us all time and ennui — and personal attack. I deeply regret offending any religious beliefs he may have; that was not my intention. I was simply defending science, which I still believe is well worth defending, and I sincerely believe he will eventually, in adulthood, learn to distinguish between them.
just filing this here:
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/24/why-barack-obama-is-bad-for-canada/
more filing:
“Much of this is rather technical, but worth reading. The report that was held back before the vote (see last link) basically says that man-produced Green House Gases have little or no effect on the Global climate. And yet, the House passed a bill that would severely penalize all Americans by huge increases in energy costs in order to minimize the output of GHG’s. The bill was strictly brought up and passed for political reasons, especially when you consider that no one had time to read the bill before voting on it.
The article:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/26/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5117890.shtml
The story was first made public by the site I frequent – http://wattsupwiththat.com/
The report that they would not allow to be published prior to the vote on the bill:
http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf
more filing:
“Hailed by President Barack Obama as an “extraordinary first step,” the proposed measures will do little to address climate change. While the working class will be hit with higher energy and fuel costs, the major corporate polluters will potentially reap enormous profits through the various subsidies contained in the legislation.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jun2009/carb-j29.shtml
Jennifer,
It’s not just the “major corporate polluters” who will laugh all the way to the bank. Since his candidacy in 2000, Mr. Gore has increased his net worth from US$2 million to US$100 million, principally by investing in EU carbon-voucher trades. He obviously plans to increase that by another order of magnitude or so with Waxman-Markey, via his financier friends at Goldman-Sachs. Note that all of this money will of course come from the people who actually use the energy (namely us, the consumers), since corporations (however “major”) do not pay taxes, they just collect them.
“(1) ocean temps are still up –”
Look at that? A government department with staff lolly-gagging about and lying to the public with group malice afforethought.
Thats just unacceptable. Next time I have a couple of beers I might ring the Premiers office and start shouting at people.
Not even J Edgar Hoover would have the nerve to try this on a civilian not guilty of anything. And if Ian Mott is to be believed this is malice coming from a department. On the taxpayers time.
Somehow someone somewhere has to pay.
I can feel the waves of fear coming from up North. Six O’clock a senior bureaucrat in the same department as GRAMSCIAN TEAM LUKE is having a shave. Its early Winter. But already this time of the morning. Beeds of sweat are popping up on his forehead.
So whats this follow-through all about? Its a strategy based on fear and desperation. An attempt is made to put a single name on this conspiracy and yet the tag-team effort continues, giving more cause to believe ongoing malfeasanse. An attempt to fake up “honest advertising” with the Luke-desk Jive. A bit of chummyness and the loopy stuff. A continuing presence to do what? Establish that this conspiracy was all AOK and is in fact just a bit of a joke. And after all its up to the blog-owner right? Perhaps she is cool with it all? And could block GRAMSCIAN TEAM LUKE at any time. Is that what the department is now trying to establish?
It is a very stupid thing for GRAMSCIAN TEAM LUKE to be hanging around independent of what the blogowner might think. Naturally your bosses and all sorts of people ought to be publicly humiliated and deprived of your useless careers over this conspiracy. Hanging around trying on the old leftist desensitization cannot change that fact, since the people who would take offense to this and follow it up are not going to be desensitized like the “masses” as your crowd would have it.
You and your bosses ought to be relying on one thing and one thing only. That the taxpayers. The people who pay all your salaries and raise all your kids, are too busy, what with supporting their own family and yours as well. And if you disappear the outrage of this conspiracy, performed as it was on the taxpayers time, may fall off the TO DO list in their minds. Not everyone has put it together just how critical it is for our national health to make an example of people like GRAMSCIAN TEAM LUKE and their bosses, and the head of the department. They don’t know just how obsessive, destructive and determined this campaign of lies is. They don’t understand the economics of this. That an energy shortage looms. That the very threat of a carbon tax devastates the balance sheets, share prices and capital spending flows, of those companies who could save Australia from economic disaster during this coming energy crisis. So you may get away with it. Supposing you disappear.
Not everyone understands that green is the new red. But it aint the new black. GRAMSCIAN TEAM LUKE is not the latest fashion. Those who would follow this up cannot afford for you to be hanging around desensitizing people to the notion that it is alright for a group of bully-boys such as yourselves, in a government department…… that its alright for you conspirators to run a two year campaign of lies and defamation like this.
If we ever get to a point in this country where we find it normal and according to Hoyles that tag-team tax-eating Rococo Marxists can gang up on a civilian like this, with malicious intent….. if everyone gets used to thinking that this is OK then this country is finished. So don’t try to pull the leftist desensitization strategy because we cannot afford it and people will have to act.
I won’t be the only one getting about with everlasting outrage on this. Just try hanging around. I’ll bet you’ll have people emailing members of parliament in no time flat. Better to disappear and hope that everyone is too busy to get the story of this conspiracy out there in the wider public domain.