Is there a conspiracy? Or are they just evil and stupid pack-animals. I respect the former point of view but I take the latter perspective. You don’t need to infer a conspiracy with leftists, since they are just goose-stepping automatons. Worse than pack-animals. More like spineless insects.

And it doesn’t matter whose right or wrong in this debate, healthy debate that it is. What matters is that these people must be stopped. Since they are aiming to do exactly what they did with the malaria-control-centralization holocaust. But the energy-deprivation crusade will kill far more people then their still ongoing efforts with malaria population eradication.

You have misrepresented my point of view SJT. Filthy liar that you are.

Exhibit A. G Bird.

Why fake reality to that extent? Pretending that they aren’t filthy liars isn’t going to reform their character. Perhaps you’ve just begun your investigation of these matters and so don’t realise what these people are like. If not wake up.

Graeme,
With all respect, going straight to the insults and calling people liars is not very conducive to conversation. It doesn’t work any better when Luke tries it, either. AGW is a social movement. People get more defensive of the beliefs, not less, when simply attacked.

There is a very simple test.

* Does the dissent address the issues raised by AGW, or does it create it’s own version and attack them.

* Does the dissent accept any contrary evidence, no matter how bad.

* Does the dissent descend into lunatic conspiracy theories.

* Does the dissent understand the case for AGW.

I see people here failing that test constantly. They do not understand the case for AGW, they believe any piece of non-science, such as Miskicolzci, they rant on about lunatic conspiracy theories, they construct elaborate straw man arguments, misrepresent the case put by the IPCC and indulge in frantic arm waving. Denialism.

It that case, don’t you think you should stop nitpicking.

Not at all.