How do you account for the observation that a usual product of a free radical reaction is another free radical? (Hence catalysis using free radicals). What mechanism causes a reduction in free radicals to end your postulated scheme?

Neither do I and feedback is my turf.

” like evaporating water, AND that effect (water vapor) somehow enhances the heating”

Yes that could be considered feedback I don’t however think that it will be positive and that it will enhance heating.

People should not confuse heat, energy and temperature a rise in temperature does not necessarily mean that there is more energy available for work or even more in in the system.

“That’s because it isn’t.”

Yeah, I sense that, too, but I’m having trouble defining my own terms here. I think the normal reactions that increase entropy should not be considered “feedback.” There has to be an additional parameter that is causing the feedback. For example, the Sun heats the atmosphere and all the molecules in it. The simple heating of the atmosphere by the Sun is not “feedback” (same as the case with combustion–the simple oxidation of all the carbon and hydrogen is not feedback, just a normal chemical reaction). ONLY if the resultant heat causes some OTHER “third” effect, like evaporating water, AND that effect (water vapor) somehow enhances the heating, then that would be “feedback.” That is what happens with the PA system. The amplification of the sound is not “feedback.” It is the extra energy that enters the microphone from the speakers that is the “feedback.” And like you have said always, that requires that ADDITIONAL energy be added to the system. Don’t know how to explain it better….

“Well yes Jae – indeed this encounter is an embarrassment to right wing denialist turds everywhere. Enjoy:”

I pity your ability to distinguish truth from blatant nonsense. Although there were a few errors in “swindle,” the main message is unassailable.

Now, perhaps you can shed some light on just why the Earth is cooling, big time, despite increasing CO2 emissions. None of the rest of your geniuses has come forth. Is there maybe something “greater than CO2″ in climatology? How about the SUN, AGW-TURD?

That’s because it isn’t.

Eli “The Cl and H produced in the second and third reactions are feedbacks. The temperature rise from those reactions dissociates more Cl2 etc. That is also a feedback.”

No Eli that’s just chain reaction. Just because a reaction can be described by differential equations doesn’t mean there is feedback involved.

http://rationallythinkingoutloud.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/abc-australias-tony-jones-and-the-great-global-warming-swindle-debate/