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	<title>Comments on: Business That Sees Only Profit In Environmentalism: A Note from Bjorn Lomborg</title>
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		<title>By: Louis Hissink</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/05/business-that-sees-only-profit-in-environmentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-106432</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Hissink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 09:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke,

You really are a cretin - tell everyone here how the Jabiluka uranium deposit was found.

You don&#039;t know?

Well, it was found geochemically from stream sediment sampling - the exploration people at the time found a high assay of uranium in a sample taken from a creek, and discovered that it was the Jabiluka uranium deposit that outcropped and was releasing uranium (it&#039;s quite water soluble) into the water course.

I suppose you are going to now blame us in the mining industry for that as well, are you? 

Splendid - not often we find ourselves on trial with Mother Nature/God.

Actually mining is simply an acceleration of the natural process of weathering and erosion - in time most mineral deposits will be eroded and deposited into  new places. So mining is, from one viewpoint, quite natural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke,</p>
<p>You really are a cretin &#8211; tell everyone here how the Jabiluka uranium deposit was found.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know?</p>
<p>Well, it was found geochemically from stream sediment sampling &#8211; the exploration people at the time found a high assay of uranium in a sample taken from a creek, and discovered that it was the Jabiluka uranium deposit that outcropped and was releasing uranium (it&#8217;s quite water soluble) into the water course.</p>
<p>I suppose you are going to now blame us in the mining industry for that as well, are you? </p>
<p>Splendid &#8211; not often we find ourselves on trial with Mother Nature/God.</p>
<p>Actually mining is simply an acceleration of the natural process of weathering and erosion &#8211; in time most mineral deposits will be eroded and deposited into  new places. So mining is, from one viewpoint, quite natural.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/05/business-that-sees-only-profit-in-environmentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-106199</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or alternatively we could exterminate enviro-wrecking geologists for this http://nqr.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/acid-rain-or-mining-to-blame-for-waterway-pollution/1465226.aspx

Rivers of blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or alternatively we could exterminate enviro-wrecking geologists for this <a href="http://nqr.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/acid-rain-or-mining-to-blame-for-waterway-pollution/1465226.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://nqr.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/acid-rain-or-mining-to-blame-for-waterway-pollution/1465226.aspx</a></p>
<p>Rivers of blue.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Hissink</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/05/business-that-sees-only-profit-in-environmentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-106172</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Hissink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 11:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neville,

Quite - actually the variation of CO2 levels in the Earth&#039;s atmosphere is an effect of a change in the Earth&#039;s climate from external factors.

Our Greeny friends have never understood Isaac Newton&#039;s primary insight - that things change when acted on by an EXTERNAL force.

This is venturing into the philosophical area, no doubt, but from the Plasma Model, life waxes and wanes according to the variation in solar electrical input.

For reasons I have not yet worked out, Climate Changers seem to believe that humanity can affect the order of Nature.

However, none seem to understand that we are an epiphenomenon of the enviromment we are found in, and not that environment&#039;s creator.

If we took their logic to heart, we would be obliged to exterminate all the beavers that dammed creeks in the Nothern America&#039;s for environmental insensitivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neville,</p>
<p>Quite &#8211; actually the variation of CO2 levels in the Earth&#8217;s atmosphere is an effect of a change in the Earth&#8217;s climate from external factors.</p>
<p>Our Greeny friends have never understood Isaac Newton&#8217;s primary insight &#8211; that things change when acted on by an EXTERNAL force.</p>
<p>This is venturing into the philosophical area, no doubt, but from the Plasma Model, life waxes and wanes according to the variation in solar electrical input.</p>
<p>For reasons I have not yet worked out, Climate Changers seem to believe that humanity can affect the order of Nature.</p>
<p>However, none seem to understand that we are an epiphenomenon of the enviromment we are found in, and not that environment&#8217;s creator.</p>
<p>If we took their logic to heart, we would be obliged to exterminate all the beavers that dammed creeks in the Nothern America&#8217;s for environmental insensitivity.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Hissink</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/05/business-that-sees-only-profit-in-environmentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-106169</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Hissink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 10:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;recovery from the LIA&#039;

Better described as someone who was rescued in time from hypothermia, but our Luke is a mathematical physicist, in Ivory Tower, so these crass physical states are not within his purview.

Nor might science given his predeliction for the omnipotence of Gravity, and it&#039;s failure to mimic a solar system with 3 bodies, or has he &#039;ad hoceries&#039; to dismiss that as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;recovery from the LIA&#8217;</p>
<p>Better described as someone who was rescued in time from hypothermia, but our Luke is a mathematical physicist, in Ivory Tower, so these crass physical states are not within his purview.</p>
<p>Nor might science given his predeliction for the omnipotence of Gravity, and it&#8217;s failure to mimic a solar system with 3 bodies, or has he &#8216;ad hoceries&#8217; to dismiss that as well?</p>
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		<title>By: spangled drongo</title>
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		<dc:creator>spangled drongo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 10:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“recovery from the LIA” - how perversely anthropomorphic

Luke, so how would you describe it?
Rebound?
Return to MWP levels?
Return to previously enjoyed periods?
Flight from frozen arse?
Death by luxury?
or is anthropomorphic your only hook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“recovery from the LIA” &#8211; how perversely anthropomorphic</p>
<p>Luke, so how would you describe it?<br />
Rebound?<br />
Return to MWP levels?<br />
Return to previously enjoyed periods?<br />
Flight from frozen arse?<br />
Death by luxury?<br />
or is anthropomorphic your only hook.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 10:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;recovery from the LIA&quot; - how perversely anthropomorphic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;recovery from the LIA&#8221; &#8211; how perversely anthropomorphic</p>
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		<title>By: Neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But is there a problem to fix (AGW) and will resticting co2 use fix that problem?
I would say that the answer to both questions is no there isn&#039;t a problem and  cutting back on co2 will not somehow change the climate.
But it will flush trillions down the toilet for zero return and cost jobs in very efficient industries plus cost a fortune introducing so called new jobs in sustainable (?) green fantasies.
Meanwhile gore gets richer and richer and the msm promotes the likes of hansen to promote this scientific fraud.
Remove the recovery from the LIA from the equation and you are left with no problem to fix  at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But is there a problem to fix (AGW) and will resticting co2 use fix that problem?<br />
I would say that the answer to both questions is no there isn&#8217;t a problem and  cutting back on co2 will not somehow change the climate.<br />
But it will flush trillions down the toilet for zero return and cost jobs in very efficient industries plus cost a fortune introducing so called new jobs in sustainable (?) green fantasies.<br />
Meanwhile gore gets richer and richer and the msm promotes the likes of hansen to promote this scientific fraud.<br />
Remove the recovery from the LIA from the equation and you are left with no problem to fix  at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Haldun Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/05/business-that-sees-only-profit-in-environmentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-106107</link>
		<dc:creator>Haldun Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An environmental friendly war business, why not? If they can get a big propaganda machine (like anyone can guess which) to stick behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An environmental friendly war business, why not? If they can get a big propaganda machine (like anyone can guess which) to stick behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/05/business-that-sees-only-profit-in-environmentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-106106</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some freethinkers see the Gorist-Hansenist climate scare tactics as a manifestation of latter-day Pol Pot environmental ideology. Some others see it as a vast Capitalist conspiracy to get rich at the expense of consumers. 

Here in the U.S. we have a venerable tradition of corporate welfare. So the Capitalist angle does have some plausibility. It&#039;s axiomatic that large corporations are always on the lookout for a fast buck. But is that the driving force? 

Are both schools of thought mistaken? Or are they both right, in their own ways? Hell if I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some freethinkers see the Gorist-Hansenist climate scare tactics as a manifestation of latter-day Pol Pot environmental ideology. Some others see it as a vast Capitalist conspiracy to get rich at the expense of consumers. </p>
<p>Here in the U.S. we have a venerable tradition of corporate welfare. So the Capitalist angle does have some plausibility. It&#8217;s axiomatic that large corporations are always on the lookout for a fast buck. But is that the driving force? </p>
<p>Are both schools of thought mistaken? Or are they both right, in their own ways? Hell if I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 04:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may well be right SD, I&#039;m always weary of business that calls for more regulation or taxes in any form.
It ain&#039;t natural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may well be right SD, I&#8217;m always weary of business that calls for more regulation or taxes in any form.<br />
It ain&#8217;t natural.</p>
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