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		<title>By: Jennifer Marohasy &#187; Still Cattle in the Barmah Forest (Part 2)</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-75329</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Marohasy &#187; Still Cattle in the Barmah Forest (Part 2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ON December 1, the first day of summer here in Australia, residents of the little town of Barmah in northwestern Victoria, drove cattle into their forest in defiance of a government ban.  The Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) has threatened legal action, but so far the cattle are still there.  The forest has historically been grazed and the Barmah locals believe this is important to reduce the fire risk. http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ON December 1, the first day of summer here in Australia, residents of the little town of Barmah in northwestern Victoria, drove cattle into their forest in defiance of a government ban.  The Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) has threatened legal action, but so far the cattle are still there.  The forest has historically been grazed and the Barmah locals believe this is important to reduce the fire risk. <a href="http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/" rel="nofollow">http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: june</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-74727</link>
		<dc:creator>june</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Barmah,  and believe me the risk of fire is real.  We got no where with D.S.E. or Parks or any other agency we went with so the cattle were our only option, and they will stay there until the fire risk is reduced!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Barmah,  and believe me the risk of fire is real.  We got no where with D.S.E. or Parks or any other agency we went with so the cattle were our only option, and they will stay there until the fire risk is reduced!</p>
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		<title>By: Terra</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-74412</link>
		<dc:creator>Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear Ian Mott. A quick check through the archives shows you really are a sad individual. Don&#039;t get too mixed up with your shifting personalities here or you may be in a real pickle. When you are being questioned, pull out Tom Melville! What a sorry fool you really are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear Ian Mott. A quick check through the archives shows you really are a sad individual. Don&#8217;t get too mixed up with your shifting personalities here or you may be in a real pickle. When you are being questioned, pull out Tom Melville! What a sorry fool you really are!</p>
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		<title>By: Terra</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-74266</link>
		<dc:creator>Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope Tom. I am bored with the useless discussion here by equally useless cavemen. Pity a feral cat hasn&#039;t given some of you toxo. Oops, maybe it has!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope Tom. I am bored with the useless discussion here by equally useless cavemen. Pity a feral cat hasn&#8217;t given some of you toxo. Oops, maybe it has!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Melville</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-74263</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Melville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the matter, Terra? Has a feral cat got your tongue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the matter, Terra? Has a feral cat got your tongue?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Mott</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-74068</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, Terra, you almost managed to divert attention from DSE&#039;s grossly negligent failure to manage the fuel loads in the Barmah Forest. But no-one was fooled. 

Another very useful ecological service provided by the cattle as they reduce the fuel loads is they will also increase the water yield from that catchment. Runoff is a direct function of leaf area index and if there is one thing cattle like doing is reduce leaf area. The difference in runoff between an ungrazed pasture and a grazed pasture is quite significant. 

Yet, at the very time when the DSE and their green cultmeisters are complaining about reduced inflows into the Murray Darling Basin, the hypocritical morons are excluding cattle from large sections of the catchment in a way that seriously exacerbates the reduced inflows.

It would be laughable if it were not so terribly ignorant and boorish.

The folks from Barmah are doing the ecology of the Murray a major service by re-introducing grazing animals. So even their protests actions end up being more beneficial than the supposed &quot;good works&quot; of the DSE Scumnoscenti.  But whats new? Everything they touch turns to $hite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, Terra, you almost managed to divert attention from DSE&#8217;s grossly negligent failure to manage the fuel loads in the Barmah Forest. But no-one was fooled. </p>
<p>Another very useful ecological service provided by the cattle as they reduce the fuel loads is they will also increase the water yield from that catchment. Runoff is a direct function of leaf area index and if there is one thing cattle like doing is reduce leaf area. The difference in runoff between an ungrazed pasture and a grazed pasture is quite significant. </p>
<p>Yet, at the very time when the DSE and their green cultmeisters are complaining about reduced inflows into the Murray Darling Basin, the hypocritical morons are excluding cattle from large sections of the catchment in a way that seriously exacerbates the reduced inflows.</p>
<p>It would be laughable if it were not so terribly ignorant and boorish.</p>
<p>The folks from Barmah are doing the ecology of the Murray a major service by re-introducing grazing animals. So even their protests actions end up being more beneficial than the supposed &#8220;good works&#8221; of the DSE Scumnoscenti.  But whats new? Everything they touch turns to $hite.</p>
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		<title>By: Terra</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-73986</link>
		<dc:creator>Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I get on very well with my “own kind”. But lying, incompetent green scumbags with substance abuse issues have never been my “own kind”.&quot;

Oh how tiresome. If only you became as sick of the sound of your own rants as some others here appear to be. Pigeon-holing folk is the ilk of the non-imaginative, intolerant caveman. Oh, that&#039; you!

 
&quot;And we are a friendly, welcoming bunch, even to folks like you, if you would just stop lying all the time.&quot;

Oh I see I do need your permission to post here after all. What was that hypocritical comment ...&quot;And now he wants to censor the use of quotes and decide who can post on a public blog.&quot; Lying? You seem to be confusing me with yourself. Perhaps its the brain damage from being in the front row, or just plain bad genes. How very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I get on very well with my “own kind”. But lying, incompetent green scumbags with substance abuse issues have never been my “own kind”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh how tiresome. If only you became as sick of the sound of your own rants as some others here appear to be. Pigeon-holing folk is the ilk of the non-imaginative, intolerant caveman. Oh, that&#8217; you!</p>
<p>&#8220;And we are a friendly, welcoming bunch, even to folks like you, if you would just stop lying all the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh I see I do need your permission to post here after all. What was that hypocritical comment &#8230;&#8221;And now he wants to censor the use of quotes and decide who can post on a public blog.&#8221; Lying? You seem to be confusing me with yourself. Perhaps its the brain damage from being in the front row, or just plain bad genes. How very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Mott</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-73983</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who threatened violence, Terra? The &quot;foot on the throat&quot; line is a common metaphor, not an inducement to violence. 

Playing &quot;cross country rugby&quot;, or &quot;cross country AFL&quot; in the middle of a DSE cattle round up is nothing but a nostalgic return to the rustic roots of all our contact sports. It is unlikely to involve undue violence unless the DSE goons try to take the ball away. In which case they would be seen to join in the game and become, &quot;fair game&quot; as it were.

And if some of the spectators got excited and cheered loudly for their team then they can hardly be blamed if the cattle that DSE have herded into the same area get spooked and bolt in all directions. It is just a normal part of the &quot;games they play in heaven&quot;. 

Sport makes such riveting viewing, don&#039;t you think? I bet it would make a really popular program on Youtube. The combination of opposing teams with natural backdrop and the random twists and turns of a third team, the cattle, would be a real &quot;barbeque buster&quot;.

You see, Terra, I really am a social animal. I get on very well with my &quot;own kind&quot;.  But lying, incompetent green scumbags with substance abuse issues have never been my &quot;own kind&quot;. I&#039;m just a former Rugby front rower who never did acquire a side-step. Who always seeks the shortest distance between two points, even if that means going through, or over, someone else&#039;s ribs. 

And we are a friendly, welcoming bunch, even  to folks like you, if you would just stop lying all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who threatened violence, Terra? The &#8220;foot on the throat&#8221; line is a common metaphor, not an inducement to violence. </p>
<p>Playing &#8220;cross country rugby&#8221;, or &#8220;cross country AFL&#8221; in the middle of a DSE cattle round up is nothing but a nostalgic return to the rustic roots of all our contact sports. It is unlikely to involve undue violence unless the DSE goons try to take the ball away. In which case they would be seen to join in the game and become, &#8220;fair game&#8221; as it were.</p>
<p>And if some of the spectators got excited and cheered loudly for their team then they can hardly be blamed if the cattle that DSE have herded into the same area get spooked and bolt in all directions. It is just a normal part of the &#8220;games they play in heaven&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sport makes such riveting viewing, don&#8217;t you think? I bet it would make a really popular program on Youtube. The combination of opposing teams with natural backdrop and the random twists and turns of a third team, the cattle, would be a real &#8220;barbeque buster&#8221;.</p>
<p>You see, Terra, I really am a social animal. I get on very well with my &#8220;own kind&#8221;.  But lying, incompetent green scumbags with substance abuse issues have never been my &#8220;own kind&#8221;. I&#8217;m just a former Rugby front rower who never did acquire a side-step. Who always seeks the shortest distance between two points, even if that means going through, or over, someone else&#8217;s ribs. </p>
<p>And we are a friendly, welcoming bunch, even  to folks like you, if you would just stop lying all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Terra</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-73950</link>
		<dc:creator>Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Ian Mott. I would hardly call you ordinary. Most ordinary folk I know don&#039;t threaten violence on others. No one here threatens violence like you do. You have a problem (numerous in reality).

What a buffoon. Tells me I am trying to censor and decide who posts here (based on nothing at all) then tells me to get under a rock. Ian, the slime mold have way more intelligence than some hasbeen yobbo like you. You should try learning a few things from them-like how to get on with your own kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Ian Mott. I would hardly call you ordinary. Most ordinary folk I know don&#8217;t threaten violence on others. No one here threatens violence like you do. You have a problem (numerous in reality).</p>
<p>What a buffoon. Tells me I am trying to censor and decide who posts here (based on nothing at all) then tells me to get under a rock. Ian, the slime mold have way more intelligence than some hasbeen yobbo like you. You should try learning a few things from them-like how to get on with your own kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Mott</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/12/cattle-still-in-the-forest/comment-page-1/#comment-73818</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong, Terra, you don&#039;t like seeing tactics the greens have been using for years being used by ordinary folks against a negligent government department that has trashed all semblance of governing for anyone but the green cult? Well tough tits, fella. 

And now he wants to censor the use of quotes and decide who can post on a public blog. 

Best get back under that rock, matey, the slime mould must be getting lonely, again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong, Terra, you don&#8217;t like seeing tactics the greens have been using for years being used by ordinary folks against a negligent government department that has trashed all semblance of governing for anyone but the green cult? Well tough tits, fella. </p>
<p>And now he wants to censor the use of quotes and decide who can post on a public blog. </p>
<p>Best get back under that rock, matey, the slime mould must be getting lonely, again.</p>
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