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	<title>Comments on: Not Enough CO2 in Fossil Fuels to Make Oceans Acidic: A Note from Professor Plimer</title>
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		<title>By: Global Warming Debunked &#171; Conservative Thoughts and Profundity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Warming Debunked &#171; Conservative Thoughts and Profundity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kilimanjaro; Global sea ice; Causes of Hurricanes; Extreme Storms; Extinctions; Floods; Droughts; Ocean Acidification; Polar Bears; Extreme weather deaths; Frogs; lack of atmospheric dust; Malaria; the failure of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: These 700 scientists challenge theory of manmade global warming &#171; A War of Illusions</title>
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		<dc:creator>These 700 scientists challenge theory of manmade global warming &#171; A War of Illusions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kilimanjaro; Global sea ice; Causes of Hurricanes; Extreme Storms; Extinctions; Floods; Droughts; Ocean Acidification; Polar Bears; Extreme weather deaths; Frogs; lack of atmospheric dust; Malaria; the failure of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS
The book, &quot;CO2 , Global Warming, and Coral Reefs: Prospects for the Future&quot;, can also be ordered here:
http://valeslake.com/bookmart.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS<br />
The book, &#8220;CO2 , Global Warming, and Coral Reefs: Prospects for the Future&#8221;, can also be ordered here:<br />
<a href="http://valeslake.com/bookmart.htm" rel="nofollow">http://valeslake.com/bookmart.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enhanced insight into the science of CO2, oceans and coral can be found from this extensive literature review at the Science and Public Policy website:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/co2_coral_warming.html
or in book form at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/CO2-Global-Warming-Coral-Reefs/dp/0971484589/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1240145662&amp;sr=1-1

the 5-star reader review states:

A surprisingly detailed and careful review of the research on the growth and survival of coral reefs., March 30, 2009

By 	Donald N. Anderson (Anchorage, Alaska)
   
This little book is quite deceptive in that its 67 pages of text provide a very wide ranging review of the research on coral reefs. The amount of detail is so great that I read many paragraphs multiple times and felt at the end that I had read a much longer book.

Dr. Idso is to be commended for this excellent review of the research on the state of these fascinating underwater ecosystems. Those 23 additional pages listing the many references are no joke. I was surprised at the amount of detailed research being done on coral. I don&#039;t even want to try and count the number of researchers involved. Or the many fine experiments and observational studies carried out.

As CO2 increases in the atmosphere it of course also increases in the ocean (some have suggested at a 1 to 50 ratio). There have been predictions that increased ocean temperature and acidity will reduce rates of coral calcification, weaken coral skeletons and cause coral death.

Dr. Idso reports that contrary to the models predictions there is no simple link between high ocean temperatures and coral bleaching, and that corals adapt and respond to their environment. Many times this is a replacement of the zooxanthellae during stress induced bleaching by varieties that are more tolerant of that particular stress.

Coral reefs have persisted through geologic time (about 200 million years for scleractinian corals, much, much longer than humans have existed) and in sea temperatures 10-15 degrees C warmer than at present. They have also survived periods when CO2 concentrations were 2 to 7 times higher. Thus coral survival seems to be more closely related to the rate of external change and their ability to adapt.

Predicted rises in sea level likewise are well within the growth rates of coral and will in fact allow for the expansion of coral in many areas.

Coral is bleaching in some areas and thriving in others. Its overall health appears very good with real world observations contradicting the results of the climate models and often refuting their predictions.

There is too much in this book to even list the major topics, but readers will be well rewarded if you have any interest in the effects of additional CO2 and the state of research in the marine world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enhanced insight into the science of CO2, oceans and coral can be found from this extensive literature review at the Science and Public Policy website:<br />
<a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/co2_coral_warming.html" rel="nofollow">http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/co2_coral_warming.html</a><br />
or in book form at Amazon:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/CO2-Global-Warming-Coral-Reefs/dp/0971484589/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1240145662&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/CO2-Global-Warming-Coral-Reefs/dp/0971484589/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1240145662&amp;sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>the 5-star reader review states:</p>
<p>A surprisingly detailed and careful review of the research on the growth and survival of coral reefs., March 30, 2009</p>
<p>By 	Donald N. Anderson (Anchorage, Alaska)</p>
<p>This little book is quite deceptive in that its 67 pages of text provide a very wide ranging review of the research on coral reefs. The amount of detail is so great that I read many paragraphs multiple times and felt at the end that I had read a much longer book.</p>
<p>Dr. Idso is to be commended for this excellent review of the research on the state of these fascinating underwater ecosystems. Those 23 additional pages listing the many references are no joke. I was surprised at the amount of detailed research being done on coral. I don&#8217;t even want to try and count the number of researchers involved. Or the many fine experiments and observational studies carried out.</p>
<p>As CO2 increases in the atmosphere it of course also increases in the ocean (some have suggested at a 1 to 50 ratio). There have been predictions that increased ocean temperature and acidity will reduce rates of coral calcification, weaken coral skeletons and cause coral death.</p>
<p>Dr. Idso reports that contrary to the models predictions there is no simple link between high ocean temperatures and coral bleaching, and that corals adapt and respond to their environment. Many times this is a replacement of the zooxanthellae during stress induced bleaching by varieties that are more tolerant of that particular stress.</p>
<p>Coral reefs have persisted through geologic time (about 200 million years for scleractinian corals, much, much longer than humans have existed) and in sea temperatures 10-15 degrees C warmer than at present. They have also survived periods when CO2 concentrations were 2 to 7 times higher. Thus coral survival seems to be more closely related to the rate of external change and their ability to adapt.</p>
<p>Predicted rises in sea level likewise are well within the growth rates of coral and will in fact allow for the expansion of coral in many areas.</p>
<p>Coral is bleaching in some areas and thriving in others. Its overall health appears very good with real world observations contradicting the results of the climate models and often refuting their predictions.</p>
<p>There is too much in this book to even list the major topics, but readers will be well rewarded if you have any interest in the effects of additional CO2 and the state of research in the marine world.</p>
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		<title>By: plutocrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>plutocrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Ian Plimer is one of the most esteemed geologists in the world. He has over 150 published papers and has won more academic awards than any other  Australian geologist. Yet some of you ignorant morons seem to think that you are considerably more informed about geology than he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Ian Plimer is one of the most esteemed geologists in the world. He has over 150 published papers and has won more academic awards than any other  Australian geologist. Yet some of you ignorant morons seem to think that you are considerably more informed about geology than he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dileme si trileme: &#8220;Mama&#8221; UE se pregateste sa aranjeze familia dupa &#8220;chipul&#8221; ei &#171; Nostrabrucanus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dileme si trileme: &#8220;Mama&#8221; UE se pregateste sa aranjeze familia dupa &#8220;chipul&#8221; ei &#171; Nostrabrucanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RATIONALLYDELICIOUS.COM &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Green Faith: Interfering With The Search For Useful Answers</title>
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		<dc:creator>RATIONALLYDELICIOUS.COM &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Green Faith: Interfering With The Search For Useful Answers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Hansen&#8217;s Former Boss Takes Him To Task Over Climahysteria &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Shiny!</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hansen&#8217;s Former Boss Takes Him To Task Over Climahysteria &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Shiny!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Death knell for AGW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Death knell for AGW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Hansen&#8217;s Former NASA Supervisor Declares Himself a Skeptic - Says Hansen &#8216;Embarrassed NASA&#8217; &#38; &#8216;Was Never Muzzled&#8217; &#171; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2008/10/not-enough-co2-to-make-oceans-acidic-a-note-from-professor-plimer/comment-page-3/#comment-81985</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hansen&#8217;s Former NASA Supervisor Declares Himself a Skeptic - Says Hansen &#8216;Embarrassed NASA&#8217; &#38; &#8216;Was Never Muzzled&#8217; &#171; Watts Up With That?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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