Science-workers SJT. Field workers. And no they haven’t been doing that. They have instead tried to prove that industrial-CO2 was making the changes. And it wasn’t.

Now your point was that there ought not be this change to the climate. I said the climate always changes. And that were we having any effect it might be to slow the rate of change.

My total neutralisation of your idiotic point stands.

Is Socratic Ignorance science now?

So you have nothing to say?

Not at all, this is what annoys the hell out of me, people assuming they know what I am thinking, and even why I am thinking it, even though I’m not.

Anything could well be happening. That’s why scientists have been investigating all kinds of things for many years now, to see why things happen.

I know, and the rocks have been doing well as well. We depend on a certain stability in our environment. To say that because we can’t describe that precisely, therefore there is no need to worry about it, is wilful ignorance.

No you can say things fall down, that things attract, with what force, over distance. I can describe how it behaves quite well, although even then there are questions over larger distances. I can say what a lion eats, and how much nutrition it needs each day to live, what rate it breeds at, how long it lives, plenty of observational facts and evidence. As for how gravity works, it’s still a mystery, but we are working hard at it. Similary for bio diversity. It is the interdependence of species, and we can describe a lot of those interactions. No one is trying to describe changing those interactions, they are just saying we can disrupt the system with climate change.